Relationship between Amy and the Eleventh Doctor

[TyberiusDeAngelo]

What do you all think the relationship will be like between the Eleventh Doctor and Amy Pond? Personally, I am hoping it is a close friendship similar to what Ten had with Donna. What are your thoughts? Has there been any statements on the web about their relationship?

Cheers!

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

We've had dozens of "close friendships" similar to the one the Doctor had with Donna. There are so many different things that can happen between a man or a woman - or any two persons, that I think they should try something different.

We could have aggressive romantic tension à la Moonlighting, a sensei and student relationship, shared memories, diametrically opposed characters being forced by circumstances to live and travel together, the Doctor using Donna as a guinea pig, close friends with fundamental philosophical disagreements, cop and robber, careful planner and thrillseeker, angel and bastard. The possibilities are endless.

 

[John Picard]

Mysterious traveler and his lovely companion.

 

[23skidoo]

Of course there are those who feel there should be no relationship whatsoever. But the fact is you have an attractive male character going around with an attractive female character. It wasn't realistic back in Pertwee's day and it isn't realistic now to expect there to not be some sparks. (And in fact watch the final scene of The Green Death again; I defy anyone to deny that there wasn't something between the Doctor and Jo, and there are scenes between the Doctor and both Romanas where the sexual tension can be cut with a knife. Anyone who thinks it's all RTD's fault (or whoever wrote the TV movie) don't know the classic series at all, in my opinion.

It's not a situation that would be fixed by giving him a male companion, either, because even without the RTD influence there have been some speculation regarding Harry Sullivan, Turlough, Adric, Jackson Lake and even Wilf. Jack, of course, goes without saying.

Pretty much the only scenario some people would accept would be to bring back K-9. And even then, we'd have people griping whenever the Doctor made romantic sparks with a one-off character like Madame de Pompadour or Astrid Peth.

All that said it would be nice to see the student-teacher dynamic of Seven and Ace reestablished, and the twist of course being that we have a 1000-plus year-old Time Lord (906 my giddy aunt) who looks as young as his companion, yet being her teacher. It could add an interesting dynamic. Sort of what I'd love to see if they ever bring Jenny back full-time. (Which I suppose is another solution though some sick mind probably would come up with something...)

Something I doubt Moffat or his writers will do, but would be interesting, would be for Eleven to become frustrated because he ISN'T as irresistible to women as Ten was.

I also hope that all this talk about Karen being "mad as a box of cats" translates into the character. I'd love to see a "back away slowly from the insane companion" moment at some point! Seriously, apparently Karen couldn't resist taking a bounce on a trampoline that for some reason was in the studio where they shot that SFX 3-D cover. I'd love to see the Doctor trying to teach Amy something and have to reel her in because she's gone off on a Luna Lovegood-style tangent!

Alex

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

I also hope that all this talk about Karen being "mad as a box of cats" translates into the character.

Oh yes. I'd love it if they had a Leo and Margaret relationship.

 

[Bones2]

I think there'll be less or none of the silly romantic nonsense that RTD used to shoehorn in to make it look like a drama. Going by my perception of certain spoilers. Of course, I could well be wrong. Maybe that's just what I'd like to be true. Moffat is many times more capable a sci-fi writer than RTD, so I'm hoping he won't just create a horde of Daleks and magic them away with deus ex machina gibberish hoping that if the companion pretends to cry and be in love enough, and if Murray Gold goes Walt Disney enough, then we'll buy into it like snivelling emos. Drama seems to have been the crutch to make up for the comparative weakness of the sci-fi elements with RTD, despite not belonging in Doctor Who. Moffat is a good enough writer that I'm hoping we'll have seen the last of that.

 

[davejames]

Well Gillan has already said in an interview that her character regards the Doctor almost as an "annoying older brother," which sounds like it could be a fun dynamic.

Of course that doesn't preclude something happening in the future, or the Doctor still fancying her to some degree...

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Full frontal snogging, with nudity, gets my vote.

Drama seems to have been the crutch to make up for the comparative weakness of the sci-fi elements with RTD...

Drama is foundational to storytelling; "sci-fi elements" are genre add-ons. You've got the cart before the horse.

 

[Thestral]

Here's the thing. I really really really liked the Doctor/Rose relationship across two seasons, and think the Doomsday theme is still wonderful. And I really appreciated the story Martha Jones went through, even if the Doctor was a bit of a dick (albeit without meaning to). So I've got no problem with the Doctor and his companion having a romantic relationship.

That said... I think I wouldn't mind something different for Amy and the Doctor. And not because of River Song's return (in truth, that's kind of 'meh' to me). There's other relationships two young(-looking) attractive people can have than romantic. Student/teacher would be neat, as some have suggested, perhaps mutually.

I think this idea...

Well Gillan has already said in an interview that her character regards the Doctor almost as an "annoying older brother," which sounds like it could be a fun dynamic.

sounds like a really good one. Think Sokka/Katara for those who watched the Avatar cartoon (first one that popped in my head)... or maybe Sisko/Dax, which obviously wouldn't have the 'annoying' part.

OTOH... Karen is gorgeous, so...

Full frontal snogging, with nudity, gets my vote.

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[Bones2]

Drama seems to have been the crutch to make up for the comparative weakness of the sci-fi elements with RTD...

Drama is foundational to storytelling; "sci-fi elements" are genre add-ons. You've got the cart before the horse.

Mmm, but I prefer drama arising from the (usually sci-fi) situation to something hackneyed and obvious like romance featuring the Doctor. Perhaps I was using terms too general. Drama is important yes, but soap opera type romance with the lead character is cheap and obvious, and ultimately just manipulating the audience into caring to make up for a deficient plot.

Of course, these are just my views. I'm well aware the popular view here is that most of new Who is great, and more people than not seem to be more than happy for the Doctor to have romantic involvements. But to me it doesn't belong.

 

[ClayinCA]

I also hope that all this talk about Karen being "mad as a box of cats" translates into the character.

Oh yes. I'd love it if they had a Leo and Margaret relationship.

Oh, that would be fun!

 

[Captain Pike]

The relationship Donna had with the Doctor is pretty much spot on to how it should be played, imo. A great friendship.

I find this to be much more interesting, for me personally.

Jon Pertwee allegedly once said that the doctor was/should be asexual. I'm in pretty firm agreement with that. I know that lots of folks like to see the romance stuff, that they somehow think it makes the show more grown up or beleivable, or whatever, and more power to them, but for me that was never what Doctor Who was about (with the possible exception of the timelady Romana - but even then, that was merely subtly implied rather than anything specific).

 

[Cutter John]

I agree with Bones (holy crap!). Romantic tension between a male and female working together is looong past the point of cliché. To me its actually different and refreshing to have a couple where you're NOT wondering when they're finally going to fall in love.

Its one of the reasons I liked Donna so much.

 

[davejames]

I have no problem with romance, but I agree some of the Doctor/Rose stuff got a bit... gooey towards the end. I'm not sure we should ever see the Doctor fall THAT hard for a companion.

But of course everything RTD did was huge and over the top, so it's not really a surprise that his romance was too. lol

 

[Starkers]

I like the idea of an annoying older brother (though doesn't she snog him in the trailer?)

People who think we've seen the last of romance really need to take a look at Moffat's back catalogue!

 

[David cgc]

Jackie once snogged the Doctor. It doesn't mean anything anymore.

 

[TyberiusDeAngelo]

Well Gillan has already said in an interview that her character regards the Doctor almost as an "annoying older brother," which sounds like it could be a fun dynamic.

Of course that doesn't preclude something happening in the future, or the Doctor still fancying her to some degree...

I like the "annoying older brother" dynamic. That could be interesting.

 

[Admiral_Young]

I like the nagging older brother comment as well...and from what spoilers I've read about Amy herself I don't think there is room for any romantic entanglements.

 

[Bones2]

People who think we've seen the last of romance really need to take a look at Moffat's back catalogue!

I prefer to think he'll take note of how unsuccessful those elements were and never attempt it again

 

[Sci]

People who think we've seen the last of romance really need to take a look at Moffat's back catalogue!

I prefer to think he'll take note of how unsuccessful those elements were and never attempt it again

Yeah, right, two Hugo Awards, a Hugo nomination, huge ratings, critical acclaim, and inheriting the showrunner position.

Yep, Moffat's previous Doctor Who romance stories (and, yes, "The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances," "The Girl in the Fireplace," and "Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead" were romance stories, amongst other things) were really unsuccessful, weren't they?

ETA:

Frankly, I think Moffat views the Doctor through a far more sexualized lens than even RTD. RTD, after all, had the Doctor snog Martha without any apparent lust in him at all; RTD had him getting hit on by hot secretaries in "Partners in Crime" and react just by getting uncomfortable. It's Moffat, on the other hand, who has made the Doctor's sexuality one of the primary traits of the character in his writing -- from his examination of the Doctor's reluctance to be caught up in a romance with Rose in "The Doctor Dances" to his romanticized depiction of a love story between the Doctor and Reinette in "The Girl in the Fireplace" to his depiction of a future romance so intimate that the Doctor tells River Song his true name in "Forest of the Dead."

Moffat's Doctor is way more sexual than RTD's, I'd argue.