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"Regeneration" revisited: Color me impressed, this one's a real thrill

Re: "Regeneration" revisited: Color me impressed, this one's a real th

Yeah exactly. According to the episodes logic, curing any disease of any population is preventing "natural extinction" and btw, isn't Star Trek about using technology to overcome the worst parts of nature and living in a higher state of society?

Why didn't Phlox say this about the Klingons he helped cure in the last season? :P

The Prime Directive is designed to protect the Federation from causing problems for itself later down the road. Note that the Prime Directive does not apply to non-native species, and also member planets. The idea is to prevent starship captains from potentally causing a problem for the Federation. Be it in one year, a hundred years, and a million years.

Yeah but the Prime Directive changes based on the episode, and the main characters throw it away to begin with. It makes no sense and doesn't usually succeed in adding ethical dilemmas that make sense. They just confuse the audience.
 
Re: "Regeneration" revisited: Color me impressed, this one's a real th

Yeah exactly. According to the episodes logic, curing any disease of any population is preventing "natural extinction" and btw, isn't Star Trek about using technology to overcome the worst parts of nature and living in a higher state of society?

Why didn't Phlox say this about the Klingons he helped cure in the last season? :P

The Prime Directive is designed to protect the Federation from causing problems for itself later down the road. Note that the Prime Directive does not apply to non-native species, and also member planets. The idea is to prevent starship captains from potentally causing a problem for the Federation. Be it in one year, a hundred years, and a million years.

Yeah but the Prime Directive changes based on the episode, and the main characters throw it away to begin with. It makes no sense and doesn't usually succeed in adding ethical dilemmas that make sense. They just confuse the audience.

Actually the episode goes out of its way to show a distinction between what a Doctor does, and what Phlox's issues were.

He would have absolutely helped them if there was no other sentient race that was having (in his scientific opinion) it's potential evolutionary growth stopped by another, when that "other" culture was naturally at the end of it's existence.

The Klingon issue was decidedly different.

I like the fact that the choice is so controversial. That it brings into question, how unprepared Archer, and humanity itself is in making choices that are on such a large and long term scale.

i like that the audience can think it was a terrible choice, even Archer admits that he thinks its wrong. Now I could have done without the line about the "Directive", but at the heart of the issue Archer isn't prepared to make a choice that could have such huge ramifications eons after he is dust.

He played it safe, and for the fans with expectations for the Captain to find some way to save the day, its a bold and solid choice. it plays into the fact that these people are basically on their own, making it up as they go along, and have no long term experience to base choices on.

i mean sure we already saw in fight or Flight the crew and the Captain make a choice that the other Captains would never have made. Before Archer is so ashamed that he turns the ship around. But that shouldn't happen all the time. Sure some times archer and Company should get it right straight out of the box, others they should struggle and get to what we feel is the moral correct choice, and other times, they should struggle and make what we feel is the wrong choice. This is the show that should be doing that.
 
Re: "Regeneration" revisited: Color me impressed, this one's a real th

I think Regeneration was a great ENT episode. It was really exciting. The progressive assimilation of that cargo ship was really cool.
 
Re: "Regeneration" revisited: Color me impressed, this one's a real th

It's not a prequel to establish that in the 22nd Century humans battled the Borg when they've never heard of or knew of anything like them by the 24th, a very unlikely situation.
With all the aliens-of-the-week that Starfleet meets, it's entirely possible that the Borg would not be remembered two centuries after the initial one-off encounter. (Also, Earth Starfleet is not identical to Federation Starfleet.)

Nah, it clearly establishes the signal sent is the reason the Borg are attacking in the 24th century. Blegh. The plot doesn't work and it's just a generic Borg episode.
It's certainly not established. A signal was sent, but there's no guarantee it was received. Also, it's stated it would take at least two centuries for the signal to reach the Delta quadrant. And didn't "Q who" establish that Q was responsible for focusing the Borg's attention on the Federation?

The plot works fine, and it's an exciting and well-made episode.
 
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(and Temporal Investigations) didn't clean up the mess.

How do we know they didn't (eventually)?

The 29th-century Starfleet had to clean up the aftermath of "Timeless," and that happened offscreen. Same story here, maybe?
 
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Archer brought Earth to the Borg's attention, Q brought the Borg to Earth's attention.
 
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Archer brought Earth to the Borg's attention, Q brought the Borg to Earth's attention.

A nice oneliner, but is it true ?

I've got the feeling that if Archer never would have been involved, (and no other destroyed them) they would have kept growing and eventually would have invaded Earth or warned their "home" collective. They came to earth "back" in the 24th century to invade Earth in the first place, after all.
 
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It becomes a chicken and the egg question. We will never know the answer to the Borg question really. We know the Borg were near Federation and Romulan space as early as the first season of TNG. Q didn't dump the Enterprise in the path of a cube until the following year. Archer's encounter though, did it signal the Borg to investigate this region of space, or did they send ships there on their own?

For all we know, the first incident at the Neutral Zone was the response to the 22nd century message, and the Borg decide the two species was not worth their time. Then Q tossed the Enterprise away from a cube, and they got curious as to what technology could do that. Definately something that needed assimulating.
 
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