Refit NX, with or without booms?

[Glacial]

I think Enterprise wouldn't recieve this refit, being assigned relativley close to home as of Season 4, but I could see the NX-class ships that are planned on being sent into deep space recieving that sort of refit.

I know Doug Drexler, the man who designed the NXs, actually pushed for a secondary hull (and more TOS-like paintjob) to be added to the NX for Season 4, since they had to refit it after the whole Expanse mission anyway.

He's working on a TOS-ified, secondary-hull-added NX for the 2011 Ships Of The Line Calendar!

 

[AnyStar]

i havnt done anything else i can show yet, its all in my sketchbook. i cant come up with anything new that i like on this idea of a topside 2ndry hull.

you can see some of my original 3d model over on sci-fi meshes though, page 2 has some pics of the old underslung hull i was playing around with.
http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/3d-wips/63249-another-nx-1st-post.html

 

[Guardian Bob]

Teaser image (I think):

http://drexfiles.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/nx_refit_cam_015_r04.jpg?w=225&h=371



[Reminder: we don't allow hotlinked images, Guardian Bob. Check out the FAQ for more info. --HR]

 

[Timo]

Looks like a belt-and-suspenders deal. That impulse engine there would have to be the one at the aft end of the portside boom, right? So the canted pylon would go down from the boom underside, but there's also a vertical neck at the centerline. And quite a whopper for a secondary hull, apparently...

Not my cup of tea, really. Having that secondary is gonna take away what little individuality the saucer-only design originally had, and turn it into yet another TOS ship clone, even if there are those booms there.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[AnyStar]

your right, it does look like a whopper of a new hull, with a tri-pod sort of connector design.

it really is hard to tell what's going on though, we can see the "hood scoop" mimic'd again down there, as well as the bulbous way the curvature pops up too. i'm not very confident of it, but the bottom may be rather flat, similar again to the saucer section. otherwise it will be gigantic!

i wish we could see if the actuall strut connecting the nacelles is new... i always like the wing-type design. but there is nothing of that echo'd in the lower portion we see extending through to the new hull?

at least we can tell that the shuttle-bay has been moved down there too, its clearly occupied by the neck now

 

[AnyStar]

wow, it looks great! even in the dark and such a tiny pic!!!
http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2010/01/03/nx-01-5-season-five-refit-teaser/

 

[Skywalker]

wow, it looks great! even in the dark and such a tiny pic!!!
http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2010/01/03/nx-01-5-season-five-refit-teaser/

Eh, I'm not really digging it. It doesn't look like a very organic addition from that angle. Maybe a better angle and a better quality image will change my mind.

 

[KottenFutz]

wow, it looks great! even in the dark and such a tiny pic!!!
http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2010/01/03/nx-01-5-season-five-refit-teaser/

Eh, I'm not really digging it. It doesn't look like a very organic addition from that angle. Maybe a better angle and a better quality image will change my mind.

I gotta agree, I can still see the NX-01 as if it's just had some stuff tacked on, almost forced. It's too bad, because I love Doug Drexler's original design... but perhaps you're right that it's just a bad angle.

So maybe the OP should try a version without the booms.

 

[AnyStar]

^ actually, i'm kind of surprised how closely my older idea was to what he envisioned. at least from a rear views
http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz153/AnyStarModeler/NX-ent/capture_10122009_130331.png
http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz153/AnyStarModeler/NX-ent/capture_10122009_130410.png

he didnt go as far as i did with mirroring the saucer rim, but his too has that edge on it, along with the flattened "butt"

i played a bit with the contrast on his teaser pic

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[Mr. Laser Beam]

Does anyone know if future ENT novels will feature the ship getting this refit?

 

[JoeP]

Does anyone know if future ENT novels will feature the ship getting this refit?

I'm sure it's much too early to know one way or the other. But depending on how the final result looks, I think it would be pretty sweet if it was.

I wonder if seeing the refit ship on cover art would confuse some people in the book store who are only casual fans of the show and not familiar at all with the idea behind the refit? I'm sure such considerations are made in decisions like this.

 

[Timo]

They have bigger things to worry about if they start thinking in terms of audience sensibilities.

After all, the TV show ended with a clear image of the ship not being refitted, just days before she was going to be retired for good. Recent novels might play certain tricks with how and even whether the TV show ended with that image, but a major part of the audience would be thinking that this was it, that the ship ended her adventures like she began (give or take a dozen phase cannon and a situation room).

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Richard Baker]

IIRC that ending shot also showed Kirk's Enterprise without it's refit either...

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[Glacial]

After all, the TV show ended with a clear image of the ship not being refitted, just days before she was going to be retired for good. Recent novels might play certain tricks with how and even whether the TV show ended with that image, but a major part of the audience would be thinking that this was it, that the ship ended her adventures like she began (give or take a dozen phase cannon and a situation room).

I think anyone who's a big enough ENT fan to buy the novels pretends, like I do, that that finale never happened. Like "Spock's Brain," or Star Trek V.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

After all, the TV show ended with a clear image of the ship not being refittedi

I don't care. And I doubt anyone else will, either. As I said in another thread, TATV is universally hated. No one likes it. No one *could* like it. No one's going to accept it at face value anyway, so as far as I'm concerned, it's the novels which are definitive here. Canon issues be fucked.

Plus, didn't TATV's ending also include a shot of NCC-1701, which would have no logical reason to be there? So there's obviously a bit of artistic license at work here anyway.