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Rank the movies

I've been taking up for TFF for alot of years and it's getting tiresome. Unfortunately, the movie has a reputation that precedes itself. People who have never even seen the movie have an opinion of it. It's the urban legend of Trek films. Is it perfect? No. But few movies are. The truth of the matter is that Trek V has more heart and more intelligence than all of the TNG movies combined.

I saw it when it came out, and its even worse today. Not much happens in STINS, but at least its message makes some sort of sense, and the characters are in character, and the FX and production design are understated but well done.....etc etc. If STV passes for intelligence, then Lost in Space is probably more your cup of tea.

RAMA
 
Although I prefer TNG over TOS (by a small margin), the TOS movies are light years ahead of the TNG ones!!

Hmm, in order of preference, I'd have to pick them like this:

1. TWOK
2. TSFS
3. TFF
4. TVH
5. TUC
6. FC
7. TMP
8. INS
9. GEN
10. NEM (Yes, it did suck that much)
 
1. The Motion Picture
2. The Wrath Of Khan
3. The Voyage Home
4. The Undiscovered Country
5. The Search For Spock
6. Generations
7. The Final Frontier
8. First Contact
9. Insurrection
10. Nemesis
 
1. TSFS
2. TWOK
3. TMP
4. TVH
5. TUC
6. FC
7. GEN
8. TFF
---------
9. INS
10. NEM

As far as I'm concerned, I could watch the first 8 on my list over and over. The last two I hope to never watch again...
 
1. Wrath of Khan
2. Undiscovered Country
3. Voyage Home
4. Search For Spock
5. First Contact
6. Generations (so much potential, so many plotholes)
7. Final Frontier
8. Nemesis (Data's death was not a bad thing imo)
9. Insurrection (felt like a very good episode)

I'm abstaining from Motion Picture because I can't remember it that well.
 
Best to Worst:


Star Trek V: The Final Frontier

Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Star Trek: The Motion Picture
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
Star Trek: First Contact
Star Trek: III: The Search for Spock
Star Trek: Generations
Star Trek: Insurrection
Star Trek: Nemesis


Star Trek V: The Final Frontier is my favorite movie. For me, the soundtrack and the meaning behind the movie, as well as the chemistry between the Big Three is what created in my own mind's eye, the best Trek movie I could have possibly hoped for. I don't care what people say about the movie, or how some put other people down because of that choice. I love the movie, and it will always have a special place in my heart as the best Trek movie on the big screen.

J.
 
1) The Wrath of Khan
2) The Voyage Home
3) The Undiscovered Country
4) The Search for Spock
5) The Motion Picture
6) The Final Frontier
7) Generations
8) First Contact
9) Insurrection
10) Nemesis

Regards
 
1. Undiscovered Country
2. Wrath of Khan
3. First Contact
4. Nemesis
5. Search Spock
6. Voyage Home
7. Insurrection
8. Final Frontier
9. Generations
10. Motion Picture
 
The good:

1. Star Trek: The Motion Picture
The first and best of the Star Trek pictures.

2. Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan / Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country
Meyer's two directorial efforts are about equal to me and are also strong entries in the franchise.

The okay:

3. Star Trek: The Search for Spock
Far better than it has any right to be, given the anti-drama of reviving a killed character. Underrated.

4. Star Trek: First Contact
Characterisation and plot flaws aside; probably the most entertaining of the TNG films.

The mediocre:

5. Star Trek: The Final Frontier
A nice prologue and some strong character moments elevate what would otherwise be clearly a bad film.

6. Star Trek: Insurrection
A mixed bag with simultaneously better and worse characterisation and fairly muddled thematically. Deserved to be better than it is.

The bad:

7. Star Trek: Generations
An incoherent mess that fails in both drama and comedy and wraps a thin plot around a checklist of characters to die and ships to blow up. Some interesting thematic material and a sleepwalking McDowell can't save this picture.

8. Star Trek: The Voyage Home / Star Trek: Nemesis
One is a lightweight eighties comedy whose humour, like much of the eighties, has not aged well. The other single-handedly killed the TNG movie franchise. Not a fan of either.
 
I don't usually participate in this forum because my philosophy is that Star Trek really belongs on TV with movies just as snacks between the main courses. I've only seen the movies once for the most part. But recently I just re-viewed TWOK (possibly for the first time since 1982! yes, the plot twists took me by surprise, all I remembered was the earwig and Spock's death! :lol:) It really reinvigorated my appetite for more TOS era movies from the recast crew. Anyway, my ranking, hazy as it may be...

1. The Voyage Home - did the best job with the interpersonal chemistry and underlying hippie-ness that for me, is the essence of Star Trek (at least until DS9 came along)
2. TWOK - also great for interpersonal chemistry and a good story
3. First Contact - mainly for the story; the TNG crew were lacking in the chemistry I liked in TOS

...those are the three I definitely like (and the only ones I've seen more than once). From there:

4. The Search for Spock
5. The Undiscovered Country

...are ones I recall pretty much liking despite being disappointed in the recasting of Saavik when Kirstie Alley got the gig on Cheers. I also recall being nonplussed by Christopher Lloyd as a Klingon (this will crack you people up: originally I remember Lloyd being in TUC and had to go check imdb to find out he was in SFS instead.)

After that, there are the disappointments, which generally reflect my indifference to the TNG era:

6. Generations
7. The Motion Picture
8. Insurrection
9. The Final Frontier, which I would have thought would stand for all time as the worst Trek movie, but amazingly...
10. Nemesis
 
Does it matter what anyone else says on here now that one poster has come out and stated his opinion on Star Trek V is "the truth of the matter"? :lol:
 
P.S. I think putting Nemesis last is too much of a cop out and a bit of jumping on a rather old, and very worn, bandwagon.
Either that or it really is a bad movie. ;)
Absolutely bad movie. Having said that, I guess I need to put up or shut up:
1.-First Contact
2.-The Voyage Home
3.-The Search for Spock
4.-The Wrath of Khan
5.-The Undiscovered Country
6.-The Motion Picture (due to historical significance-it started the revival)
7.-10.-who cares
 
Great:
1. TWOK
2. FC
3. TUC

Good despite their flaws:
4. TSFS
5. NEM
6. TMP
7. TVH

Mediocre:
8. GEN
9. INS
10. TFF
 
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier is my favorite movie. For me, the soundtrack and the meaning behind the movie, as well as the chemistry between the Big Three is what created in my own mind's eye, the best Trek movie I could have possibly hoped for. I don't care what people say about the movie, or how some put other people down because of that choice. I love the movie, and it will always have a special place in my heart as the best Trek movie on the big screen.

I think what's funny is how the same posters are the ones that complain about how people only want to see "gee whiz kewl exploshins" and then come and complain about the production values of STV:TFF.

Although some stuff is laughable (and cringe inducing "Uhura's dance" WTF were they thinking?) I think the movie that quite a deep philosophical reach. It was a movie about your inner pain, whatever that may be (and we all have one, or two). It was a movie about filling that hole we all have in our souls (if you believe in one, but I am quoting J. Allen's post ;) ) by trying to find God and the meaning of life.

Basically the story was a search for our place in the universe, and would have been quite interesting had it not been for the studio's meddling.

The character moments are icing on the cake for me. Watching them hang out together, watching McCoy have to relive an extremely deep pain (that is probably my favorite scene in the entire movie), and then watching them follow Sybok into his quest, because, they too must know.

I'm surprised this movie is so hated by fans of Trek, storywise it competes easily with TWOK and TUC, and was a much better character study than TMP (where basically the "God alien thing" has to be stopped or it will kill earth. There's nothing else to it. Most of the character drama was Kirk fighting over commanding the Enterprise, really deep philosophical stuff there :rolleyes: )
 
About Uhura's fan dance...I thought it was kind of empowering... She looks so toned...

Well my beef with it was that, Nichelle Nicolls (sp?) was probably in her 60's when that movie was filmed? I don't think many people want to see granny do a lapdance.
 
Kegek, I never knew we had such similar tastes. So only slightly changing your entry (quiz here: find the differences, everyone!), this would be my listing:

The good:

1. Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan / Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country
Meyer's two directorial efforts are about equal to me and are strong entries in the franchise.

3. Star Trek: The Motion Picture
The first of the Star Trek pictures, getting better over the years and additional care.

4. Star Trek: The Voyage Home
A nice look at how our heroes solve a problem one can relate to - certain rather goofy moments (Scotty's masterring of the Mac, the race along the hospital ward - yawn!) notwithstanding. Besides, I think Catherine Hicks is the most underrated guest star of the movies.

The okay:

5. Star Trek: The Search for Spock
Far better than it has any right to be, given the anti-drama of reviving a killed character. Underrated.

6. Star Trek: First Contact
Characterisation and plot flaws aside; certainly the most entertaining of the TNG films.

The mediocre:

7. Star Trek: The Final Frontier
A nice prologue and some strong character moments elevate what would otherwise be clearly a bad film.

8. Star Trek: Insurrection
A mixed bag with simultaneously better and worse characterisation and fairly muddled thematically. Deserved to be better than it is.

The bad:

9. Star Trek: Generations
An incoherent mess that fails in both drama and comedy and wraps a thin plot around a checklist of characters to die and ships to blow up.

10. Star Trek: Nemesis
The only film I had only seen on TV. I had so purged it from my memory, that two years later I suffered through half of it again, before I even realised that I had seen it before!
 
About Uhura's fan dance...I thought it was kind of empowering... She looks so toned...

Well my beef with it was that, Nichelle Nicolls (sp?) was probably in her 60's when that movie was filmed? I don't think many people want to see granny do a lapdance.
I just hope I'm that confident when I'm in my fifties...and look that good.
 
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