Rank the movies

[RobertScorpio]

This list is based on opinion. Having said that? I think Nemesis is FAR worse than Star Trek V. So no, I don't think it is copping out at all. If you don't believe me ask B and B. More than the failure of Enterprise, Nemesis is what killed TREK.

Star Trek V is a flawed movie. But Nemesis is just awful, and box office? TREK V made 2 million more than Nemesis and was released in 1989. So not only is it a better movie than Nemesis, based the value of a dollar in 1989, it made a heck of a lot more money...

Rob

Well said. I do love the Kirk/Spock/McCoy stuff, but two or three scenes don't make a movie. It is all up to the individual, but the fact that the rest of V is just so horrible, from the look of it ie the very lackluster effects, the casting of Larry Luckinbill, the characterization of Sybok, I think it makes a good companion piece to Nemesis. Sybok comes out of nowhere, a half brother of Spock, Shinzon comes out of nowhere, a clone of Picard... both WTF moments.

I actually have no problem with introducing either Sybok (who I thought was perfectly casted) and Shinzon. Introducing a son for Kirk, a daughter for Sulu, and a Borg queen at Wolf 359 were also interesting story turns.

As for Luckinbill? I thought he was great. He played the character as non-vulcan as you could, and that was who the character was. He was a far better non-Vulcan Vulcan than most of the TNG-era full Blooded Romulans and Vulcans, IMO

Rob

 

[22 Stars]

^ I agree in part, but comparing Sybok or Shinzon to Demora, David isn't fair, Gen. and II/III didn't really rely on them the way the other films did on Sybok and Shinzon.

I suppose Lukinbill is 'ok', but nobody went to the new Trek film thinking WOW, they got LARRY LUCKINBILL in Trek, oh boy!! Lol. By the time V was made they should have known better, and certainly with Nemesis there is no excuse. If I had my way, the Shinzon character would have been rapidly aging to the point that in the second half of Nem. Patrick Stewart would have been playing the character. That might have saved Nemesis to some extent.

 

[Cyrus]

As much as I dislike TFF, I thought Lukinbill was pretty good. It would have been interesting if they had been able to get Connery as they wanted.

 

[AxelFoley]

Well let me start by saying that this is shocking to me! You guys have... such great taste! I can't believe the difference between you and Swedish Star Trek fans. There's a poll at a Swedish Star Trek forum where Khan had TWO votes, and First Contact had 38

Swedish fans in general seems to really dislike TOS, and only respects it because "it's what started it all"

This is really refreshing, I must say.

 

[Rene Picard]

Back on topic...

1. First Contact (no, I'm not Swedish)
2. Undiscovered Country
3. Wrath of Khan
4. Generations
5. Insurrection
6. Search for Spock
7. Voyage Home
8. TMP
9. Nemesis
10. Final Frontier

 

[dave_R_treker]

1. First Contact
2. The Undiscover Country
3. The Wrath of Kahn
4. The Voyage Home
5. Generations
6. Insurrection
7. Nemesis
8. The search for Spock
9. The Motion Picture
10. The Final Frontier

 

[HoundDog]

The best:
1. TUC
2. TWOK
3. FC

good ones:
4. TMP
5. TVH
6. TSFS
7. GEN

very much average, although they have their moments:
8. TFF
9. NEM
10. INS

 

[Ward Fowler]

I've been taking up for TFF for alot of years and it's getting tiresome. Unfortunately, the movie has a reputation that precedes itself. People who have never even seen the movie have an opinion of it. It's the urban legend of Trek films. Is it perfect? No. But few movies are. The truth of the matter is that Trek V has more heart and more intelligence than all of the TNG movies combined.

 

[AxelFoley]

I've been taking up for TFF for alot of years and it's getting tiresome. Unfortunately, the movie has a reputation that precedes itself. People who have never even seen the movie have an opinion of it. It's the urban legend of Trek films. Is it perfect? No. But few movies are. The truth of the matter is that Trek V has more heart and more intelligence than all of the TNG movies combined.

I have yet to see Nemesis but as for Gen, Fc & Ins, I wholeheartedly agree with you. I value TFF much higher than those movies.

 

[zakfa]

1) TWOK
2) TSFS
3) FC
4) TMP
5) TUC
6) TVH
7) GEN
8) NEM
9) INS
10) TFF

 

[SiorX]

The best:
1. TUC
2. TWOK
3. FC

good ones:
4. TMP
5. TVH
6. TSFS
7. GEN

very much average, although they have their moments:
8. TFF
9. NEM
10. INS

I agree with your rankings exactly, except in my own case I'd subdivide the final category this way:

Average, although it has its moments:
8.TFF

Their very existence makes the whole world a slightly worse place:
NEM
INS

 

[chancellorjake]

The Awesome!
(tie)1. The Undiscovered Country
(tie)1. The Wrath of Khan
3. First Contact

The Pretty Good!
4. The Voyage Home
5. Generations
6. The Search for Spock
7. The Motion Picture

The Lukewarm!
(tie)8. Insurrection
(tie)8. The Final Frontier

The Salt and Burn It!
10. Nemesis

 

[martin]

The Best
First Contact
The Wrath of Kahn
The Undiscovered Country
Nemesis

The Good
The Search for Spock
Generations
Insurrection
The Final Frontier

The Bad!
The Voyage Home
The Motion Picture

 

[AxelFoley]

Ok, I just finished watching Nemesis so get ready for me highly controversial list!

1. The Wrath of Khan
2. The Voyage Home
3. The Search For Spock
4. The Undiscovered Country
5. The Final Frontier
6. The Motion Picture
7. Generations (thanks to The Shat)
8. First Contact
9. Insurrection
10. Nemesis

 

[Good Will Riker]

Since I prefer the TOS films to the TNG films, this is how I rank the current 10 until Star Trek XI comes out in May 2009:

1. TUC
2. TMP
3. TVH
4. TWOK
5. TFF
6. TSFS
7. GEN
8. FC
9. INS
10. NEM

 

[Seven of Five]

I rank something like this, but it's been a while since I watched them all:

1. The Wrath of Khan
2. The Motion Picture
3. The Undiscovered Country
4. First Contact
5. The Search For Spock
6. The Voyage Home
7. Generations
8. Insurrection
9. The Final Frontier
10. Nemesis

 

[TigerOfDarkness]

These are the best:

The Motion Picture
The Wrath of Khan
The Voyage Home

These are pretty good:

First Contact
The TOS bit of Generations

These aren't bad:

The Final Frontier
The Undiscovered Country
Nemesis
The Search For Spock
The rest of Generations

Not going to buy the DVD, not going to watch it on TV. No, really, I mean it:
Insurrection

 

[CaptainJon]

1) The Wrath of Khan
2) First Contact
3) The Undiscovered Country
4) The Voyage Home
5) The Search for Spock
6) Generations
7) Insurrection
8) Nemesis
9) The Motion Picture
10) The Final Frontier

 

[STA Alliance]

1. Wrath of Khan
2. First Contact
3. The Undiscovered Country
4. Voyage Home
5. Generations
6. Insurrection
7. The Search For Spock
8. Nemesis (Liked the full phaser spread)
9. The Motion Picture
10. The Final Frontier

 

[RAMA]

I would rank them this way (from best to worst):

1. ST:II
2. STFC
3. STIV
4. STTMP
5. STNEM
6. STVI
7. STIII
8. STINS
9. STGEN
10. STV