Rank all the villians in the Star Trek movies

[DarKush]

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For me, I would've liked Shinzon a lot better if he had tried to destroy Romulus. It would've felt more organic and been simpler for the audience to grasp: I'm going to kill the guys who enslaved me. Rather than I'm going to kill the main obstacles of the guys who had enslaved me to prove to my human clone that I'm more important than he is.

Shinzon's motivations are really silly when I sit back and realize that he had already surpassed Picard. He had become the Praetor of the entire Romulan Empire. A non-Romulan at that. That's a pretty impressive feat. What did he have to prove to Picard? Heck, with less support he had risen to a station far above Jean-Luc. If anything, Jean-Luc should've been wondering what he more he could be (like when he was a no-name officer in Tapestry).

Also I wish they had played up his loyalty to the Remans more. I liked that scene where he was talking to Picard about the liberation of the Reman people. It gave him depth.

 

[malchya]

1) Kruge! Far and away. I bet Mr. Lloyd is still digesting furniture from that particular performance.
2) Borg Queen

The rest just kind of shuffle around in my estimation.

 

[USS Kongo]

1. Khan
2. General Chang
3. Nero
4. Borg Queen
5. Dr. Soran
6. Kruge
7. Shinzon
8. Ru'afo
9. "fake God"

Sean

 

[G2309]

Nero has to be no.1. He might not be the most interesting villain but he's the only one who managed to accomplish any of his goals.

 

[cooleddie74]

1. Khan Noonien Singh
2. General Chang
3. V'Ger (technically not a villain, but included anyways)
4. Borg Queen
5. Dr. Tolian Soran
6. Nero
7. Commander Kruge
8. Shinzon
9. Ahdar Ru'afo
10. "God Entity" from TFF

 

[sonak]

Nero has to be no.1. He might not be the most interesting villain but he's the only one who managed to accomplish any of his goals.

Soran accomplished his goal , it's just that Picard found a way to cheat and take it away from him.

 

[Cyke101]

Nero has to be no.1. He might not be the most interesting villain but he's the only one who managed to accomplish any of his goals.

Soran accomplished his goal , it's just that Picard found a way to cheat and take it away from him.

Along the same lines, the Borg Queen also accomplished her goal. But again, Picard found a way to cheat and take it away from her.

In essence, they would've gotten away with it if it wasn't for those darn kids ... and their pesky Picard, too!

 

[A Little Otter]

1) Khan - the bar was set by him for future villains
2) Commander Kruge - he was a threat through the entire movie and is what "modern" Klingons are based on
3) Borg Queen - she had charisma and changed the whole way we look at the Borg
4) General Chang - he really wasn't a true villain until the ending battle, since he was only one member of the conspiracy, but his presence was a great conflict for Kirk
5) V'ger - its search for its creator threatened Earth's destruction; despite it being non-human, it was a highly unique antagonist and truly represented the Enterprise's mission to "seek out new life" even if it can destroy planets
6) Dr. Soran - his quest drove the entire movie, turning his personal crusade into mass murder; Malcolm McDowell always makes a fun villain
7) Shinzon - the performance was strong, his origin was original, his goal drove the movie, but there was still something missing.
8) Nero - his obsession to kill Spock and the planet Vulcan changed history and his ship was one of the worst the Enterprise faced, but he was fairly one-dimensional
9) the whale probe - basically a retread of V'ger, it too had the power to destroy the Earth even though it didn't realize what it was doing, but the means of controlling the weather was kind of cool
10) Ru'afo - he chewed the scenery with the best of them, but really all he was trying to do was move villagers from one place to another and things went downhill from there; overall, he was pretty forgettable
11) Sybok - the God creature wasn't really the villain of the movie, even though it was a monster that tricked Sybok into kidnapping and theft; Sybok is the real antagonist even though he's not a bad guy and is really misguided (and rather lame)

 

[wjaspers]

My list of villans would be (actually not IN the movies, but credited):

1. Rick Berman
2. Brannon Braga
3. Sherry Lansing

 

[sonak]

My list of villans would be (actually not IN the movies, but credited):

1. Rick Berman
2. Brannon Braga
3. Sherry Lansing

who is Sherry Lansing?

 

[Kai Winn]

I'm bewildered that so many rank Khan #1. Ricardo Montalban must have learned acting in the era of silent movies, that might explain the hilarious overacting. Khan a villain? Rather a comedian. While Space Seed had a plot that made still sense, the one of TWOK was absurd throughout.
The antipode is certainly General Chang, thanks to Plummers great performance and good writing probably the only truly menacing Klingon in all of Star Trek, and he had the good luck to star in a fine movie.

 

[AdmiralScreed]

I'm bewildered that so many rank Khan #1. Ricardo Montalban must have learned acting in the era of silent movies, that might explain the hilarious overacting. Khan a villain? Rather a comedian. While Space Seed had a plot that made still sense, the one of TWOK was absurd throughout.
The antipode is certainly General Chang, thanks to Plummers great performance and good writing probably the only truly menacing Klingon in all of Star Trek, and he had the good luck to star in a fine movie.

I mostly agree. The only reason Khan is ranked so high on my list (#4) is because, frankly, there haven't been very many good Trek villains, so it's not as if Khan has very much competition.

 

[Elder Knight]

Don't blame "God" for Shatner's directorial sins!

 

[cooleddie74]

Don't blame "God" for Shatner's directorial sins!

He felt Shatner's pain.

It ran deep. He shared it with millions.

 

[WarsTrek1993]

Best enemy of all time is easily Khan. His motivations were very interesting and his tactics very clever. Too bad Shinzon kinda ruined them.

 

[cooleddie74]

The "God" entity in TFF would probably have been a lot more interesting had we learned more about why it had been imprisoned on Sha-Ka-Ree and by whom. And it didn't help matters that it was depicted with some pretty damn disappointing visual effects. There was the nucleus of a pretty good and engaging villain in STAR TREK V but incomplete writing, bad editing and subpar special f/x torpedoed a good chunk of its impact.

Need I mention the entity's completely unexplained ability to make psychic contact with Sybok across a span of TENS OF THOUSANDS of light-years?!? Not one hint was given as to how it was able to do so. I wasn't asking for a long, painful exposition that would have dragged the film down even further...but we got nothing. It was up to the J.M. Dillard novelization of the film to explain shit that should have been touched upon at least briefly in the movie itself.

 

[WarsTrek1993]

Just about every enemy in TFF should've gotten more explanation, really. Would've made up for a godawful (irresistable pun) storyline.

 

[cooleddie74]

True. Even the Klingon Captain Klaa got almost no development aside from being a one-dimensional badass who wants to challenge James T. Kirk in battle. TOS Klingons got more character development than this guy. I'll give Shatner and the producers credit for making him look distinctive and wear a different kind of armor, but that's about it.

 

[WarsTrek1993]

Even Back to the Future Kruge got more development than him.

While ranking the villians, I think Chang from TUC is worth mentioning as a cunning and evil threat. (Had an awesome ship as well!) Soran, on the other hand, could've been developed more.

 

[cooleddie74]

Soran had a very interesting backstory that was covered extensively in the movie novelization. He was a decent, caring El-Aurian scientist prior to the Borg attack on his homeworld and his encounter with the Nexus. He came off as fairly three-dimensional in the movie novel and was probably one of the better-developed TREK movie villains in that regard...but little of that made it on-screen. His motivations for wanting to return to the Nexus were better detailed and explained in the novelization. In the finished movie you get some inkling that he was a nice and decent fellow before the Borg and the Nexus, but he comes off as more of an "addict" who can't do without his "Nexus fix" and is willing to kill hundreds of millions of sentient beings to return there. A shame really. Malcolm McDowell is one of the best actors to ever appear in a TREK film and could have portrayed Soran as a more three-dimensional and rounded person had the script given him more of what was in the novelization.

All that said, I'm a well-known fan of GENERATIONS...logical loopholes and all.