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Quick Starfleet Battles question....

The in-game answer is that the Federation didn't use attrition units. Of course fighters are attrition units but the explanation for that is that fighters are more chivalrous. Personally I wish that the Fed's didn't use fighter either.
 
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Why? Because of the tediousness of resolving fighter combat in the game, or some in-world reason?


Marian
 
Fighters don't seem very logical to me but the main reason is to distinguish the Feds from everyone else. I don't like the Federation having drones or plasmas either. I would like to see only the Kzinti & Hydrans with fighters and maybe only a couple of races with PFs.
 
I would think the Federation would use fighters and PFs in a similar way the fighters and bombers were used during WW2.
 
I've seen somewhere, either in a Captain's Log or a Nexus, conjectural Federation PFs. If I remember right they were called Thunderbolts. The good thing about the SFB system is that if you want Fed PFs you can have them. If I don't want the Feds to have drones then they don't. You just need an opponent that will agree to use the rules you want.
 
It is because the Federation would not assign a crew to an attrition unit. The life expectancy is longer for a redshirt on an away mission.
Fighters aren't assigne crews. Being a fighter pilot is a volunteer position.
 
It's been a VERY long time sense i've play SFB.. But i cold have sworn i've play Fed with PF's.. Hummmm. Maybe not.. Anyway, i've used PF's and they can work. If you know how to play them. Much like fighters can be deadly if used right.. Back in the day I was always enjoyed using Lyrans. Two words, ESG ram. I also like playing Feds but hated photon every other turns, better to use disruptors and pray you don't have a UIM burnout.
 
Wasn't the Federation BB also conjectural?

I'm getting Module M when I get paid this Wednesday. Maybe I'll grab K too.


Marian
 
Well, in SFB the battleships for everyone save the Klingons were conjectural (the Kzintis made the Super-Space Control-ship, but not a "true" battleship, and the Andromedans were constructing one but it was not completed before Operation Unity). The Tholians and Seltorians also had battleships, but never brought them with them.

However, in Federation Commander, there is no mention of them being conjectural designs. It could be that ADB's intention is to decide that the battleships are no longer conjectural (with the possible exception of the Romulan KB10R, as it was doubtful the Klingons could ever deliver one).
 
Interestingly, the Federal Republic of Aurora - established when a Federation colony system was whisked off to the Omega Octant in Y130, and joined by other 'missing systems' from Klingon and ISC space later on - were the first power in that Octant to develop the technology required to build gunboats (PFs) but chose not to, selling the tech to their Maesron allies instead.

In their case, the reason given had to do with the loss of life caused by an Andromedan attack on FRA space in the Y190s, in which the Andros made a point of targeting the Auroran carriers and swatting the fighter squadrons out of the skies. After this, the FRA Senate was unwilling to spend more on new types of attrition units, which (to them) were seen as a pointless waste of lives in the face of the Andromedan threat. So, while the Senate ordered more warship production, the Maesrons used the acquired tech to develop their own PFs, and try to learn how to best use them against both the Andromedans and the Souldra.


One thing to note about the Feds is that they have two things that their rivals don't have - larger carrier groups, and better heavy fighters (like the F-111), which they use as the core of the Federation 'Third Way'.

(So far, it's not clear whether or not the Aurorans went in a similar direction with their carrier groups - but if they did so, it would seem that it would be after Y204 - when the Androemdan threat had receded, and the Aurorans would be faced with having to deal with rivals within the Octant once again.)


Oh, and by the way - there are two other factions which built battleships, and each built more than one: the Iridani (who come from a cluster adjacent to the Omega Octant) and the M81 Galaxy Tholians (who built several battleships as the centrepieces of their fleets - at least until the Seltorian Rebellion broke out).
 
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Never got into the Omega Octant, though admit was something I was interested in - apparently Fed Commander is looking at this, but way in the future.

I did however get my "Distant Kingdoms" expansion today (I forgot how scary the Hydran Monarch is!), and ordered the next two Booster Packs. :devil:

I however feel that SFB made a mistake in their fighters, starting with the Feds A10s and F14s being the best of the best, but then eventually giving everyone else a fighter almost equivalent, leading them to introduce the F111 and A20 to redress the non-PF balance.
 
Was there ever any explanation for why Federation fighters are named after real 20th century fighters?


Marian
 
Do you mean modern (more or less) fighter classes, like the Spitfire and Zero? There are a few such fighter classes in BattleTech, named after famous fighters from earlier times.
 
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