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I'm not entirely sure, but it's plausible (and would certainly be practical) that in the B5 franchise, everything outside of fanfic is considered canonical.

Not really. The Del Rey novels and the DC comics are canonical, but the first line of novels from Dell is not, except for The Shadow Within and To Dream in the City of Sorrows. The Dell novels were meant to be canonical, but JMS found he couldn't give them as much direct supervision as he wished while the show still demanded most of his attention, so almost all of them ended up having continuity problems or differences in their interpretation of the universe. I recall JMS saying that all of them have some "canon value" to a greater or lesser degree, but most of them are considered effectively apocryphal, and the two I mentioned are the only ones that were reprinted by Del Rey and alluded to in later books. (Note that City of Sorrows was written by JMS's wife, so that was the one case where he and the author were able to communicate routinely enough to keep it consistent.) The Del Rey novels were published after the show ended, so JMS was able to oversee and outline them personally, to be a proper "showrunner" for them, and thus they count as canon. He also outlined or wrote most of the comics. I think the comics managed to be canonical despite being put out while the show was on the air because they take less time to write and publish than novels, so he was able to devote the necessary attention to them.

That's all that "canon" really means -- it's a fancy word for the creator's own work, their own version of their creation, as opposed to other creators' works derived from it. Or, in the case of a long-running franchise that passes through multiple creators' control, it means the work created under the auspices of the copyright owners rather than their licensees. As a rule, tie-ins only work as an extension of the canon if they're directly developed and supervised by the same people who create the canon. Because any two different creators dealing with the same universe are going to see it and approach it in different ways, so the only person who can really create something that fits perfectly with the creator's own vision (and thus has a reasonable chance to avoid later contradiction) is the selfsame creator. So the canonical B5 tie-ins are the ones JMS wrote or outlined, the canonical Buffy/Angel tie-ins are the ones Joss Whedon wrote or outlined, etc. It's just a somewhat pretentious label for the creator's own stuff.
 
Regarding what is and isn't canon:

The situation in ST is what it is because of its inherently open-ended on-screen nature: at any given moment, Paramount could announce the development of a new series (and indeed, I seem to recall that they HAVE done so, with regard to a series that may very well be literally unwatchable [at least in first-run] without a broadband internet connection [a profoundly stupid move; Internet-only may be fine for niche programming like Sports Jeopardy and Mozart in the Jungle, but for Star Trek?]), that could be Prime or Abramsverse (or even Shatnerverse) continuity, or a continuity we've never seen before, and either Next Gen era, Kirk era, Pike era, Archer era, or even Braxton era.
It's not really that stupid. Streaming is the hot new thing, and most people pretty much agree that it is the future of TV, so it makes sense that CBS would want to get in on it. This is going to be their first big original streaming service, so it makes sense that they are going to use their most popular and well known franchise in order to attract people to it. While I am frustrated since I don't plan on subscribing just for one show, objectively I'm willing to admit it was probably the smartest movie CBS could make. There are probably a lot of Trekkies who are devoted enough to the franchise to subscribe just to see it.
 
James, Netflix had 31 Prime-time Emmy nominations last year, more than anyone else except HBO. Streaming hasn't been niche in the overall cultural sphere since 2013. I hate to be harsh about it, but you're honestly just behind on the medium trend. Streaming is essentially on equal footing to cable in terms of medium prestige as perceived by both general audiences and creators nowadays, regardless of you wanting to keep with dial-up internet yourself.
 
Well, 83% of homes at launch if you include secondary affiliates rebroadcasting UPN programming (fairly easy to do considering that at launch UPN only had programming for two hours a day two days a week); much higher than I'd thought. But yeah, the point still stands.
 
James, Netflix had 31 Prime-time Emmy nominations last year, more than anyone else except HBO. Streaming hasn't been niche in the overall cultural sphere since 2013. I hate to be harsh about it, but you're honestly just behind on the medium trend. Streaming is essentially on equal footing to cable in terms of medium prestige as perceived by both general audiences and creators nowadays, regardless of you wanting to keep with dial-up internet yourself.

Heck, I'm about as much of a Luddite as they come, but even I know which way the world is going, even if I'm usually the last person to adopt the latest hot technology.Some of my younger relatives don't even own television sets anymore. They "stream" anything they're interested in and watch "TV" on their computers, tablets, and other gadgets.

I'm not there myself yet, but I know it's coming. And STAR TREK is just the kind of thing that will probably get "late adopters" like me to finally take the plunge.

It's evolution in action: adapt or be left behind.
 
I'm not there myself yet, but I know it's coming. And STAR TREK is just the kind of thing that will probably get "late adopters" like me to finally take the plunge.

It's evolution in action: adapt or be left behind.

Indeed!

First-run TOS made people buy their first color TV sets.

TAS had many adults watching Saturday morning cartoons.

"Phase II" was originally to be the lead show on a new Paramount network.

TNG popularized first-run syndicated drama. (In Australia, TNG popularized first-run TV drama on VHS rental. In UK, TNG popularized TV drama on Sky, a satellite network.)

"Starfleet Corps of Engineers" started as an eBook-only series of novellas. I assume many eReaders were bought by Trek fans.

"Voyager" launched UPN.

"Amazing Stories" magazine resurrected from a long hiatus with exclusive "Star Trek" fiction. I imagine many Trek fans bought subscriptions because it was tricky to find at newsstands.
 
Like what I said about the novel continuity not being mandatory, the reverse is true about stories that were written before it began. They aren't necessarily out-of-continuity, but that's the general assumption. Many older novels have been referenced in the novel continuity, even if they don't fit in perfectly with what later books (or even on-screen canon) established.

3) Can someone, who never watched Star Trek, get into Trek universe only by reading novels? Is there enough material provided in these books that you can follow the series independently. (Yes, I know it is a crazy question, just asking if it's possible).

I don't see why not. Many authors have said that they write as if every book could be someone's first, and they usually include any backstory needed for the story. I think someone on the forum mentioned they first got into Trek through the novels, a while ago.

Exactly. Granted, at this late date, I'm not going to explain what a Vulcan is or that Mister Spock has pointed ears, or spend too much time describing what the Enterprise looks like, but I never assume that every reader has read (or remembers) every old TV episode. If I bring back an old guest-star or plot device, I'll make sure to reintroduce them in the book.

And as for the "new" continuity, if there's an official list somewhere of which older novels are still "in-continuity" and which aren't, I've never gotten that memo. I still occasionally reference older novels like "Yesterday's Son" or "Vulcan's Glory" in my TOS novels, although NOT, I hope, in a way that would confuse younger readers.
 
On that topic, Greg I was reading Miasma and there was a reference to McCoy having once attended his own funeral. I could recall what episode or book that was from, if any. It didn't matter to the story, but I am curious as to what you were referencing.
 
Trying to remember, since I wrote that book some time ago, but wasn't it Spock commenting that he'd already had one funeral, referring to his short-lived death?

I'm curious: How have you read MIASMA already? i thought it didn't come out for a couple months yet. Do they send out advance review copies of ebooks? I confess I have no idea since this is the first ebook-only thing I've ever written.
 
Ok now that I look back at that passage it is about Spock. The section starts out in what I understood reading it the first time to be McCoy's point of view, but now that I read it again I see that you were referring to Spock having that thought about having participated in his own funeral. Thanks for clarrifing that for me!

And yes they do send out review copies of the ebooks. I only wish I was lucky enough to recieve review copies of the regular novels as well!
 
Ok now that I look back at that passage it is about Spock. The section starts out in what I understood reading it the first time to be McCoy's point of view, but now that I read it again I see that you were referring to Spock having that thought about having participated in his own funeral. Thanks for clarrifing that for me!

And yes they do send out review copies of the ebooks. I only wish I was lucky enough to recieve review copies of the regular novels as well!

Glad to hear it. I was afraid that I might have typed "McCoy" when I meant "Spock."

Thanks for clearing that up about the review copies.
 
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