Question for Introverts

[TrickyDickie]

If you are there they assume there is a problem, and they are going to find something.

She knew, up front, that it was a routine eval that was more of a formality than anything because the focus was physical problems for the SSI.

Her overall write-up was characterized by errors and inaccuracies, showing that she did not pay attention to what I said and / or could not read her own handwritten notes that she took at the time.

A psychologist is one of the last people who should begin with an assumption. It's a contradiction in terms.

 

[Steven P Bastien]

It is certainly an interesting story, and even a little bit scary to me.

 

[TrickyDickie]

It is certainly an interesting story, and even a little bit scary to me.

It was wildly wrong interpretations. If she had only asked some questions at the end, instead of making her biased assumptions, she might have gained some insight into the 'whys' of certain situations. The look on her face at the end, as I think back, oozed smugness. I should have known. She was just massaging that ego.

 

[Steven P Bastien]

It reminds me of that saying.

"To a hammer, everything looks like a nail"

 

[TrickyDickie]

I put this link up in another thread, but it seems quite relevant here as well. Don't be put off by the thought that it's all political; it's not. A very interesting read about modes of thinking and such:

https://whorulesamerica.ucsc.edu/change/left_and_right.html

 

[rhubarbodendron]

By the way, does this mean that introverts are not courageous?

My appologies for the late reply, Steven. I haven't been online in a few days.
What I meant to express is that the stereotype pictures introverts as shy and passive people who dislike all forms of publicity. While in my experience introverts rarely actually do meet these specifics (at least not all of them), it's still the way they are seen by most people. Under this stereotypical definition, all of us who out ourselvs as introverts would not be introverts - a paradox I find rather amusing and that I attempted to sum up in one snappy line. (As you can see it loses a lot - if not everything - in a longer explanation)

 

[sasser]

This reminds me of my cousin, who is also very introverted, probably because his father is also introverted

 

[Steven P Bastien]

My appologies for the late reply, Steven. I haven't been online in a few days.
What I meant to express is that the stereotype pictures introverts as shy and passive people who dislike all forms of publicity. While in my experience introverts rarely actually do meet these specifics (at least not all of them), it's still the way they are seen by most people. Under this stereotypical definition, all of us who out ourselvs as introverts would not be introverts - a paradox I find rather amusing and that I attempted to sum up in one snappy line. (As you can see it loses a lot - if not everything - in a longer explanation)

Thank you for your nice reply. I knew you were just summarizing quickly, but I couldn't resist noting the stereotype that easily slips in unnoticed. I didn't even notice it at first.

I think there is definitely an underlying set of fears that go with introversion. So the stereotype does have its basis. At the same time fear also offers the opportunity for courage because courage is doing things in the face of fear.

Tying this back to the original post, this is where a parent can help. Dont try and change an introvert but do foster in him the concept of courage and the development of the tools to move past fear.

 

[rhubarbodendron]

welcome to the board, sasser
You're raising an interesting point: is being introverted a matter of education?
Judging by my personal experience I'd say yes. As children my siblings and I used to get brutally punished if we were too lively or showed any other sign of extroversion (is that the correct word?). So I think we were systematically bullied into being introverts. At school we then got bullied for being introverts which first led to us to completely withdraw and become almost hermits then finally to us striking back, breaking free and finding our own ways of living. We decided what sorts of persons we wanted to be and we became them. Still, the old fear reflexes are strong in us and so being introvert is even now a dominating trait in all our characters.
A genetic inclinition seems less likely to me since only one each of my parents and both sets of grandparents were introverts while the respective other half of the couples were "normal" or even slightly extrovert.

What are everyone else's experiences? Would you say it's hereditary or educational?

 

[cosmic mouse]

What are everyone else's experiences? Would you say it's hereditary or educational?

Both imho. I think we are born who we are and our environment can and does shape and alter that somewhat (depending on the person, depending on the extent to which one is an I or E).

 

[Nyotarules]

I just took a test which says I am a public extrovert and a private introvert...whatever that means. I used to be withdrawn when I was younger due to insecurity issues, (e.g never liked conflict, did not want to say no to people) now I live the life of I don't give a f.... and say no or yes freely.

 

[Nyotarules]

^ The one thing that always threw me in England was people coming up and asking, "Are you all right?" when what they meant was, "Hello." I kept thinking, "How horrible do I look that people keep asking if I'm all right?"

Where in England does this happen, lived here all my life never experienced this, 'Hello,how are you' is a norm. I try not to use it unless I really want to know how the person is lol

 

[cosmic mouse]

I just took a test which says I am a public extrovert and a private introvert...whatever that means. I used to be withdrawn when I was younger due to insecurity issues, (e.g never liked conflict, did not want to say no to people) now I live the life of I don't give a f.... and say no or yes freely.

Is this test online? (I love personality tests)

 

[Nyotarules]

Is this test online? (I love personality tests)

https://www.psychologies.co.uk/self/are-you-an-introvert-or-an-extrovert.html

its not one of the best ones, these tests never take cultural background into consideration lol

 

[cosmic mouse]

https://www.psychologies.co.uk/self/are-you-an-introvert-or-an-extrovert.html

its not one of the best ones, these tests never take cultural background into consideration lol

I scored the same as you did...
Yeah, some of the answers didn't apply to me at all for some questions (like the museum tour- I would have wandered away on my own, bu that answer wasn't an option).

 

[DonIago]

Where in England does this happen, lived here all my life never experienced this, 'Hello,how are you' is a norm. I try not to use it unless I really want to know how the person is lol

Funnily enough, I was just watching Hot Fuzz yesterday and this exact scenario occurs at least once.

When I mentioned this to friends they pointed out that it happens a bunch in the Harry Potter films, and I noted that based on those movies being a never-ending stream of trauma for our Mr. Potter, I likely took it at face value.

 

[auntiehill]

Where in England does this happen, lived here all my life never experienced this, 'Hello,how are you' is a norm. I try not to use it unless I really want to know how the person is lol

London, mostly, about . Maybe it's just the places I wernt, but it happened to me several times. In a restaurant, in the tube station, all the male friends of my friend ...but this was many years ago. Maybe it was just in fashion then?

 

[Herbert]

I think everyone who is curageous enough to publicly post in a thread about introversion would propably not fit the classical definition of an introvert. Maybe nobody is an introvert all the time?

Or maybe it's because the anonymity of a message board allows people to be more comfortable. If I'm in a room with a bunch of strangers, I'm quiet as a mouse. If I'm on an internet message board with a bunch of strangers, I'm the opposite

 

[Steven P Bastien]

You're raising an interesting point: is being introverted a matter of education?
Judging by my personal experience I'd say yes.

I'm certainly not an expert on this. But, I always like to look at identical twins to answer questions like this. It seems that identical twins, despite being physically (nearly) identical, and genetically (nearly) identical, can be vastly different in terms of personality. This more or less proves that it is not strongly genetic. However, given that these traits show themselves so early, it's not clear that they are learned either. It is probably a combination of genetics, early development (i.e. hormonal), and education. There might even be a completely random component to it as the individual's brain develops and then responds to the environment (i.e. a feedback effect).

 

[Nyotarules]

Funnily enough, I was just watching Hot Fuzz yesterday and this exact scenario occurs at least once.

When I mentioned this to friends they pointed out that it happens a bunch in the Harry Potter films, and I noted that based on those movies being a never-ending stream of trauma for our Mr. Potter, I likely took it at face value.

Movies can be extremely accurate in reflecting real life......(not) lol