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question about police

not necessarily. anybody can say anything. do you have the police power (odd...given the topic at hand) to say it's wrong? i don't know/care how things are in your area, but people say as they please.
 
I could say "the sky is orange, that's just an opinion", doesn't make it right. If you say something, especially on a forum be prepared to get criticized for it.
 
No. But then being rude to somebody who expresses on opinion online, is being pretty unbecoming of a grown man, is it not? most grown men don't challenge innocent opinions, nor demand others their time, but cool. i'm gone.
 
What's to debate? You made a blanket statement about police that doesn't reflect the vast majority of them and then tried to hide behind the old "my opinion is as good as any fact and cannot be challenged" fallacy.
because you went all bitchy about a random opinion. and get guarded and let many others say similar. i just gauge your character and move on from that.
 
Where did I "get all bitchy"? For pointing out that your opinion might not be an accurate representation of most police? And I don't run this board, I'm not even a mod here, so what other people say is beyond my control.

Feel free to make all the "random opinions" you want, just don't expect people not to address them on a forum. If you don't want your opinions to generate conversation maybe you should try a blog instead.
 
because you went all bitchy about a random opinion. and get guarded and let many others say similar. i just gauge your character and move on from that.

No. You escalated this. They aren't trying to deny your right to have an opinion. It's how you handled it in sparring with Sojourner and Mr. Laser Beam.

I also doubt you truly understand the nature of psychology with the way you called it "Human psychology" let alone having some kind of academic view of behavior of a subgroup who happens to be cops in your case. Also, some of your phrasing doesn't come off well-educated. It's entirely possible you do hold several degrees and professional certifications, but it isn't really showing in some posts of yours just now. That's not important. But you could have handled this...sparring a bit better.
 
not really. since it's a human, irrespective of age, to make generalisations.

Making generalizations is all too common amongst humans. It's not one of our finer attributes and certainly not one that I would brag about!

There are good, dedicated cops, and there are ones who became cops for all the wrong reasons -- just like in any occupation.
 
No. You escalated this. They aren't trying to deny your right to have an opinion. It's how you handled it in sparring with Sojourner and Mr. Laser Beam.

I also doubt you truly understand the nature of psychology with the way you called it "Human psychology" let alone having some kind of academic view of behavior of a subgroup who happens to be cops in your case. Also, some of your phrasing doesn't come off well-educated. It's entirely possible you do hold several degrees and professional certifications, but it isn't really showing in some posts of yours just now. That's not important. But you could have handled this...sparring a bit better.
no, i didn't lol. i understand that many cops enter it to have power. this is proven, and common sense really.
 
I don't know the details of this story

But the short version is that my friend lives near a supermarket. She has serious sleepwalking issues, she was found in the store late at night, kind of sleep walking. They charged her with indecent exposure and possession (she didnt have anything but whatever) and because she no longer lives at home she didnt get the hearing papers in the mail on time.

She has to be personally served in order to go to court. She doesn't get the hearing papers in the mail, she was handed them.

Keep in mind that they never read her miranda rights

Miranda rights are solely designed to warn you that you don't have to talk. They only apply if they want to use statements she made to them against her later. They don't have to be read if you are not in custody. They aren't required to be read if those circumstances don't apply.

and they never actually arrested her or take her to the station.

Sounds like maybe she might not have been in custody if she wasn't arrested and taken to the station. If she did make statements to the police that might be used against her later, she might want to talk to a lawyer about how to avoid having that happen.

Now some months later the cop is offering to drop the charges if she sets up a drug bust with them.. in other words use cops money to set up a guy via drug purchase.

can they do that?
Yes. It's not uncommon either.

she doesn't have the money for a lawyer.. if she ahd a lawyer this probably wouldn't be an issue.

maybe she should get the PD but they are trying to strong arm her into doing this deal

She should contact a lawyer and see how much they charge. If she's been charged with a crime and been arraigned, she absolutely should request the court to appoint a lawyer if she qualifies. If she's not been actually charged with a jailable offense, then she can't ask for one.

As a Public Defender, I can say that just randomly calling up isn't going to do much. I actually can't represent someone unless I'm appointed to the case. So I would not be involved until after charges have been filed. But if you're only asking for legal advice prior to being charged to see whether you should work as a CI for the police or not, I suspect many lawyers would be willing to give a free consultation and maybe help out after that for a fairly limited fee. The real time and effort comes from representing them after charges have been filed.
 
Making generalizations is all too common amongst humans. It's not one of our finer attributes and certainly not one that I would brag about!

There are good, dedicated cops, and there are ones who became cops for all the wrong reasons -- just like in any occupation.
It's very common. Don't project the liberal community you live in with reality.
 
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