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Quentin Tarantino confirms his Star Trek movie will be R-rated, full of profanity.

In one blurb, Tarantino indicated that it would be like Star Trek as Pulp Fiction. Which makes me wonder - are we going to see Kirk tangle with the Orion Syndicate (or whatever its downtime version is)?

A "Trek mob movie" would be so refreshing, considering that we've been subjected to some existential crisis threatening the destruction of Earth basically every other movie since the TNG era.
 
fireproof78 said:
That's a phrase I never thought I would read.

"You know what Star Trek needs? More organized crime!" :vulcan:
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I've always maintained Trek is a framework that can be used to tell any story. Romance, spy thriller, horror, family drama, comedy, etc.

That's part of why Trek movies became so unbearably dull after TUC - because the studios leaned heavily into movie Trek only being action-adventure blockbusters. Sometimes they succeeded, sometimes they failed, but ultimately that's pretty much all the TNG movies and the Kelvin movies are.
 
eschaton said:
I've always maintained Trek is a framework that can be used to tell any story. Romance, spy thriller, horror, family drama, comedy, etc.

That's part of why Trek movies became so unbearably dull after TUC - because the studios leaned heavily into movie Trek only being action-adventure blockbusters. Sometimes they succeeded, sometimes they failed, but ultimately that's pretty much all the TNG movies and the Kelvin movies are.
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I agree and disagree. On the point that it's a multi-story framework, I do agree. I think that Star Trek can offer a wide variety of stories inside that world, with the basic ethos of optimism and action/adventure spirit driving it forward.

That said, I have yet to hear an argument of what "Pulp Fiction in Space" adds to the Star Trek lore. Maybe I'm being overly particular, or maybe I'm less familiar with things like the Orion Syndicate and the like, or maybe I'm lacking imagination. Regardless, the mob in Star Trek doesn't feel organic the way that other facets do. It feels highly forced, and Tarantino's comment of "Pulp Fiction in space" sits oddly.

I hope I'm wrong. I can appreciate the risk of adding something new, as Star Trek has lived too long under TWOK's shadow, with some better outings (First Contact, Star Trek, Into Darkness) and some worse (Nemesis, Beyond). But, thus far, no substantial reason other than "It's different!" or "It will be cool!" has been offered.

Sorry, that's not sufficient for me. I don't want different just because. I don't want the rule of cool. I want it to make sense in the world.
 
eschaton said:
In one blurb, Tarantino indicated that it would be like Star Trek as Pulp Fiction. Which makes me wonder - are we going to see Kirk tangle with the Orion Syndicate (or whatever its downtime version is)?

A "Trek mob movie" would be so refreshing, considering that we've been subjected to some existential crisis threatening the destruction of Earth basically every other movie since the TNG era.
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Time to see "Pulp Fiction", though his Trek, if made, likely won't have the same actors the Kelvin movies had?

And, you bet, a movie other than "Ooh, big scary baddie is comin' to destroy Earth!" again. It's "by the numbers" in raw dictionary form. I forgot about "The Cage" and the syndicate brought up there. so has most of Trek's multi-decade run on screen! And would be the perfect venue for profanity, especially by baddies, but it's not like Kirk and Picard haven't said "hell", "damn", or "merde" before...

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There's a smartphone notification tone just waiting to be made... :devil:

mdtauk said:
He is also a fan of Yesterday's Enterprise
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Easy to see why but if he made such an episode, we'd probably see more action and less (soap opera).
 
Serveaux said:
Tarantino's Star Trek movie would be fantastic. Because it would be a Tarantino movie.

Imagine that - a Trek movie that would be an actual excellent film, one that people other than Trekkies and media fantasy fans would have some reason to watch and enjoy. Wouldn't that be amazing?

This is really too cool to happen. So it won't, and some people will sigh with relief. "Dodged a bullet," they'll unimaginatively say. And that's a pity.
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X1000:techman:
 
I honestly think QT is just messing with us about "Pulp Fiction in space". He's a Trek guy...he knows what he's doing.
 
Intersting interview with Tarantino:
https://trekmovie.com/2019/07/23/qu...fuses-the-timeline-for-his-star-trek-project/

He views ST09 as a prequel, and doesn't get (or like) the different timeline stuff.
Quentin Tarantino said:
I still don’t quite understand – and J.J. can’t explain it to me, and my editor has tried to explain it to me and I still don’t get it…Something happened in the first movie that kind of wiped the slate clean? I don’t buy that. I don’t like it. I don’t appreciate it. I don’t…fuck that! Alright? I don’t like that.
I want the whole series to have happened, it just hasn’t happened yet. No, Benedict Cumberbatch or whatever his name is, is not Khan. Khan is Khan. I told J.J. I don’t understand this, I don’t like it. And he went: “Ignore it! Nobody likes it! I don’t understand it. Do whatever you want. If you want it to happen in the exact way it happened on the series, it can.”.
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LOL. Probably a lot of old time trek fans agree with that view.
 
I've never had any issue with people not liking the reboot, but I really cannot fathom a supposedly intelligent person saying stuff like 'I still don't quite understand', 'x can't explain it to me', or 'something happened that wiped the slate clean?'

It's not effing rocket science. It was a simple, time honored sci-fi trope story. If you honestly can't understand how it was supposed to work (whether you think it should've been done or not), then how do you even qualify as a sci-fi director?
 
Will they be using the n word? Of course they will. :)
I don’t think Star Trek needs profanity. It felt very jarring in Discovery. Just have a stronger level of violence.
 
I think that the Kelvin/Prime universes will be harder and harder to maintain and that one need to go (which should be Kelvin obviously). I generally don't like Tarantino movies but one idea I would love is aa choking movie in the Kelvin universe, maybe with that time line completely collapsed and humanity wiped in the end. It would give the whole Kelvin time line a new depth and meaning, allowing for something completely new without doing harm on the ongoing star trek franchise.
 
Greg Cox said:
As I recall, Tarantino wrote the "What would Scotty do?" dialogue in CRIMSON TIDE, which displays a certain familiarity for the original series.
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Yeah, he did a complete uncredited rewrite of all of Crimson Tide's dialogue. Much like how Joss Whedon did with Speed. Here's that scene.
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Tarantino's always had a lot of passion for geeky properties. I've always been curious how that would play out with an actual IP that wasn't his own.

Here's Kill Bill's famous Superman monologue.
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And Tarantino talking about the moral complexity of Xena.
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Tarantino's work itself is surprisingly optimistic given the violence and subgenres. Maybe he wouldn't be such a bad fit after all. Here's what TV Tropes says about it.
Sliding Scale of Idealism vs. Cynicism: Despite the extraordinary violence and brutality, a lot of his works could be considered quite idealistic. Villains often show human sides, characters often act in noble ways even when it would be best to be pragmatic and people who show kindness or honor are rewarded in some way, usually by surviving the film. This is arguably most apparent in Pulp Fiction.
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Okay, I have a crazy theory that's just stupid enough to work, because Chris Pine and the gang are getting older, so here goes...

Tarantino wants the series to have happened, true? And he's a big fan of 70's film in general. What if we are finally seeing the formation of a post-TMP five year mission type story? That would totally be something within his sphere of interest. We could explain away Chekov's abscence by having him on the Reliant, and heck, we could even bring back the refit Enterprise to the big screen, just as she appeared in the classic films. I doubt he'd use the TMP uniforms (though if he used even a riff on them I'd be ECSTATIC) but he could definitely bring back the Monster maroons.

It wouldn't even need to be an exact duplication. You could update the Enterprise exterior and interior and the uniforms in a similar fashion to how Discovery upgraded the TOS ship and sets and uniforms.

Good Lord, I'm getting way to excited about this now, and it might not even happen...
 
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