PSN down thread

[Servo]

I'm kinda pissed that I've not been able to play Motorstorm online, especially since I only need the rank 30 & 40 trophies to get the platinum. On the other hand it has given me the time to complete God of War 1 & 2. So, every cloud...

I use a seperate bank account for my PSN and XBL transactions, so I'm not worried about the reports of card details being at risk since I don't keep any money in it anyway, and just transfer from my main account when I want to make purchases or renew subscriptions.

Sure, it's annoying as hell not being able to access the store and play online, but if it means we get a more secure PSN out of it at the end, then I'll gladly weather the storm. I can always play online on my 360, and I have no shortage of single player stuff on the PS3 I can be working on.

 

[Haggis and tatties]

I'm kinda pissed that I've not been able to play Motorstorm online, especially since I only need the rank 30 & 40 trophies to get the platinum. On the other hand it has given me the time to complete God of War 1 & 2. So, every cloud...

I use a seperate bank account for my PSN and XBL transactions, so I'm not worried about the reports of card details being at risk since I don't keep any money in it anyway, and just transfer from my main account when I want to make purchases or renew subscriptions.

Sure, it's annoying as hell not being able to access the store and play online, but if it means we get a more secure PSN out of it at the end, then I'll gladly weather the storm. I can always play online on my 360, and I have no shortage of single player stuff on the PS3 I can be working on.

I gave up on the GOW 1 last trophy which is the last bit were you stand on the ascending platform and try and reach the top.....if i had continued i would either have had a heart attack or a brain aneurysm. ..Of course it did not help that i used, by accident, my saved up special power on the last wave of the last bit.

But i bow to your skill, you really do need to be a god to get that.

 

[Servo]

I gave up on the GOW 1 last trophy which is the last bit were you stand on the ascending platform and try and reach the top.....if i had continued i would either have had a heart attack or a brain aneurysm. ..Of course it did not help that i used, by accident, my saved up special power on the last wave of the last bit.

Funny story; I got that pissed off with that final challenge (after spending 2 hours trying to do it and having one of the Satyrs cheap-shot me off the edge every time I got close to the final platform), that I threw my controller at the couch and inadvertantly hit my netbook, smashing the screen. Cost me £45 for a new screen because of one moment of anger. A few hours later, after I'd cooled off, I gave the challenge another go and did it on my first attempt, earning the gold trophy. Go figure.

But i bow to your skill, you really do need to be a god to get that.

Cheers.

 

[Winterwind]

I find that happens a lot: Some task/challenge you can't get after multiple attempts pisses you off. You walk away, come back and get it on the next attempt.

Hmm... maybe that will apply to the accessing the PSN itself...

 

[Stone_Cold_Sisko]

Thank goodness I never registered my CC with PSN.

Thankfully I spend most of my gaming time playing "local" games, straight off the disc. I've always been unhappy with the "you pay to license, not to own your game" model, via online ties. If the service goes down, you're basically screwed. Hopefully this will open the eyes of some people who just blindly trust their lives and finances over to the Sonys, Googles, and Microsofts of the world.

I was seriously considering dropping my CC to buy "Arrival DLC" for Mass Effect 2. Again, I'm glad I didn't...

 

[Winterwind]

Well, I don't regret using my CC to pick up Dead Money for Fallout: New Vegas. And once it's up again, I'll be getting the subsequent add-ons. As for security... if anyone steals my online CC... good luck assholes. The limit isn't high enough to let you buy much at all.

 

[Arrqh]

Right, so...

Here is the data that Sony is sure has been compromised if you have a PlayStation Network Account:

• Your name
• Your address (city, state, and zip)
• Country
• E-mail address
• Birthday
• PSN password and login name

"It is also possible that your profile data, including purchase history and billing address (city, state, zip), and your PlayStation Network/Qriocity password security answers may have been obtained. If you have authorized a sub-account for your dependent, the same data with respect to your dependent may have been obtained," Sony announced. While the company claims that there is "no evidence" that credit card information has been compromised, it won't rule out the possibility.

From here. My question is... why was Sony storing passwords in a way that was even retrievable? If this was a hack, then sure, blame the hackers but Sony looks like they had some really lax security measures. Storing passwords in the clear is unforgivable.

 

[Stone_Cold_Sisko]

Sony apparently transmits all your info every time you connect to the PSN. Or at the very least, your CC...

 

[Sephiroth]

which is why when I use XBL or PSN I buy the little points cards at gamestop

 

[JoeZhang]

I have never bought anything on the PSN - so I can't even remember if you *had* to register a card when you registered for the service?

 

[Owain Taggart]

I have never bought anything on the PSN - so I can't even remember if you *had* to register a card when you registered for the service?

Nope. Registering for PSN I think was a way to register for the system.

edit: Whoops, my bad. I thought you meant as in a registration card, not a credit card.

 

[Stone_Cold_Sisko]

which is why when I use XBL or PSN I buy the little points cards at gamestop

Great idea, i'll do that to get my mass effect dlc. Definitely not giving them my CC info after this debacle.

 

[Stone_Cold_Sisko]

I'm reading more details... and it's sounding like Sony didn't even implement some "Security 101" textbook encryption/hashing methods for personal data.

They were apparently so confident in their PS3 hardware security (the one that can't be "relocked" via firmware once opened........) that they didn't even bother.

Wow.

 

[Haggis and tatties]

I am really disappointed in Sony, i assumed at the very least my personal details were in a secure place, CC info I'm not worried about because a quick phone call will kill that card dead, but why was all the personal details so easily available.

What the hell were they thinking.

And secondly i hope they are hot on the heels of those responsible for this breach.

 

[Vance]

It wasn't easily available. If it was, don't you think there would have been a lot more scandal in the past six years, like the iPhone had?

 

[Kimi3013]

If you put stuff online, assume that someone else will try and take it at some point down the line. Internet 101. The stolen info could be found out legal ways very easily, so easy it's not really worth bothering with.

And I'm really confused about the fuss about bank cards. It's not like they can do anything with them. My sis' had her's cloned the other week and as soon as she saw the strange payment made she just rank the bank and they replaced the money, killed the card and sent a new one to the local branch to be picked up in two days. It's not hard to make a phone call, even if you're doing it after the fact.

 

[Jax]

Sony confirms breach of personal data and some services might be up within a week, so thats 2 weeks by then and not even full 100% by then.

 

[God Magnus]

And I'm really confused about the fuss about bank cards. It's not like they can do anything with them. My sis' had her's cloned the other week and as soon as she saw the strange payment made she just rank the bank and they replaced the money, killed the card and sent a new one to the local branch to be picked up in two days. It's not hard to make a phone call, even if you're doing it after the fact.

I had a friend whose identity was stolen for a CC that was used to purchase car parts (she doesn't even own a car). It took her weeks to fight the charges, and then her credit rating lost about a hundred points. This doesn't happen in all cases of course, but it is a possibility and hence the "fuss".

There's also the inconvenience factor. I have several accounts that auto-bill to my CC monthly such as Netflix. Once you change card numbers, you have to reset all that. Now for me it's like, 3 things so no big deal. However, if you bill tons of stuff every month to it I can see getting annoyed really quick.

I am really surprised at how badly Sony fumbled this one. I don't even play online regularly. I just went online to buy a couple expansion packs and that's it. Just to be safe I pre-emptively canceled my card and set up privacy protection on it.

 

[Servo]

Sony didn't wait a week to tell customers about stolen data...

There's a difference in timing between when we identified there was an intrusion and when we learned of consumer's data being compromised. We learned there was an intrusion April 19th and subsequently shut the services down. We then brought in outside experts to help us learn how the intrusion had occurred and to conduct an investigation to determine the nature and scope of the incident.

It was necessary to conduct several days of forensic analysis, and it took our experts until yesterday to understand the scope of the breach. We then shared that information with our consumers and announced it publicly this afternoon.

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/116/1164186p1.html

And it is possible something very good may come of all this...

In what would appear to be a bid to appease consumers over the service's outage, the platform holder may be planning to introduce cross-game chat and even in-game video chat "to name a few" new features.

That's according to an Engadget forum poster claiming to be a Sony Computer Entertainment employee.

"As we are rebuilding the network, we are taking into consideration in implementing features such as cross game chat and in-game video chat to name a few," they wrote on the site in response to user queries about the PSN down time.

"I cannot confirm any new features at this time but expect a massive update when the network is restored."

While this should be taken with a pinch of salt for now, the forum user in question has been posting reliable PlayStation news and info on Engadget for a number of months.

http://www.computerandvideogames.co...turn-with-cross-game-chat-in-game-video-chat/

 

[Geckothan]

Never bothered signing up for PSN, luckily. The only info they have on me is my DoB tied to a serial number from when I wanted to look at what they had on the store once. It's still terrifying how reckless a company with so many customers could be with regards to their data. On the plus side, it might teach people who use the same password for everything a lesson or two when the perpetrators start working through that list of users and have a go at their email accounts.