^ You don't have to be a frigging scientist to know that you're not supposed to pet a frigging alien snake thing!
Prometheus 2: Apparently it's happening
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No, it's more like:
Prometheus comes out: "Goddammit, what is this bullshit? I was looking forward to a film that explains the origins of the Space Jockey and nicely ties into Alien, as was promised, yet what we got was a weak hybrid that failed utterly in both respects and as a piece of coherent storytelling with believable characters."
Alien Covenant trailer drops: "Goddammit, what is this mild expression of concern being blown up into full histrionics by overzealous defenders of the film? I like that it's finally not pretending that it isn't an Alien film and fully embracing its origins with actual Xenomorphs instead of cryptic murals and weird space cobras we've never seen before, but I wish it could have done so without the trailer making it look like a note for note remake of Alien with updated graphics. There's got to be some middle ground between vague connections that only add to the mystery and Force Awakens-like near shot for shot remakes of the original. Plus, I don't remember anyone saying they should totally drop the Engineers subplot and focus solely on the Aliens, yet there's no trace of them in this trailer. There will hopefully be more as the story trailers drop in the future, which is why I remain cautiously optimistic, but don't tell that to the people who are saying it's being condemned outright, because that upsets the narrative of fans being unreasonable reactionary crybabies who we can look down on for not appreciating the splendor that is Prometheus quite as much as we do."
Everybody needs to enhance their calm. Trailers are there to comment on. This idea that you're not supposed to judge something whose entire purpose is to be judged is ridiculous. This trailer seems to want to go out of its way to say "Hey, don't worry, this isn't Prometheus 2, it's a replicant of Alien." My problem with Prometheus wasn't that it was exploring the backstory of the Space Jockey. I loved that idea as concieved. It's that it told us virtually nothing about the Space Jockey beyond the broadstrokes and it told us even less about the Alien universe, which it tried to distance itself from needlessly. Now, unless the trailer gives a wholly misleading impression of where this film is going, it looks like they went in the completely opposite direction and are now giving us an Alien heavy story that pays lip service to the backstory of the Engineers (if it deals with them at all), which is not what I wanted either.
No one will be more delighted if I'm wrong than me, but I'm just reading what I see on the screen there. And I'm certainly not saying I have no desire to see the film. I own and rewatch Prometheus despite my issues with it. And I will see this no matter what.
You should never ever, ever, ever touch a snake, they are dangerous, scary, evil and scary, did I mentioned that snakes are scary?
Trailers are made to start people talking about the movie- it's working!
Looks like another film I need to see on the big screen- alone probably since my wife really hates scary movies.
Looks like another film I need to see on the big screen- alone probably since my wife really hates scary movies.
I think it did make sense. I left the theather wanting more. It purposfully didn't answer all the questions it posed.
There is a great video on YouTube... something to the effect "Prometheous esplained" or something liek that. It's about 30 minutes long and well worth the view.
I'm in this camp for sure. The two things I want to see in this movie are the Engineers and Rapace... neither of which I saw in the trailer... I'm still holding out hope though.
If there is a need (or someone felt the need) to make an explanation video about a movie don't you think there's a problem with the movie itself?
Now some movies are intentionally complicated or require you to pay attention (Nolan movies for example, especially The Prestige and Inception) but i didn't get the that feeling with Prometheus. It was pretty straight forward but still not a good movie (that's of course my opinion
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When the trailer was released, Variety reported that:
http://variety.com/2016/film/news/monsters-ridley-scott-alien-covenant-trailer-1201948292/
2001: A Space Odyssey
Yes, the reason it exists is because of all the incomprehensible holes and abysmal writing. Not in a 2001 Space Odyssey art film way. What a profoundly stupid argument.
I suppose the Defenders of Stupidity also have an excuse for running in a straight line under a rolling bazillion ton spaceship?
That is actually a very reasonable explanation
They aren't real people in real situations. It wasn't a movie about reality. They are fictional people in a movie badly written by a writer writing badly stupid people acting stupidly to deliberately move the plot along. Aging Guy Pearce (such a shame after a brilliant TED teaser) was another symptom of the mangled story and the "blind panic" of the production fixing a Spaihts script changed by Lost writer Lindelof. But the visuals were great. 
Invoking a song infamous for getting it wrong isn't a good strategy.
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That I buy. It's the "touching things" and "take helmet off in an alien environment" that I have trouble with. I don't care how much of a fringe crack pot a scientist is, basic lab discipline is basic. Even if you don't think there's any danger of a pathogen, or toxic native life, or other passive environmental hazards like particulate matter, you still should be trying to avoid contaminating your samples with your filthy human breath.
This kind of thing was fine in 'Alien' and 'Aliens' because they weren't scientists, they were space truckers and space marines. Space scientists would know better. This is simply lazy writing.
Also found it hard to credit the love interest getting all mopey because the Engineers were all dead. They just discovered the remains of an advanced alien culture! Any scientist worth their salt should be jumping out of their skin with excitement at the very prospect, regardless of their discipline! Do you know how many geologists went nuts watching the observations of the Apollo program come back? That's a geologically dead rock that anyone with a pair of binoculars can get a good look at almost any night but the chance to get up-close first person observations from the surface had them climbing the walls, and with good reason.
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"Dude, this suit is bullet-proof, I'm pretty sure it's snake-proof."
One line, that's all it would have took. And that line apparently was in the script at one point.
Even so, everybody in their right mind should run away when they see a snake, even if it has the most beautiful collors just run.
One line of dialogue can fix almost anything in most cases. The point is you need that line of dialogue otherwise the writing appears lazy.
Which is pretty much why I didn't like Prometheus and it comes across in the trailer thus far. So, not exactly excited about this film, but I could be wrong.
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