Close - it was Starbase 10, at Warp 5.Didn't Stocker order warp 10? How did the Romulans catch up and how are they keeping up to fire on the Enterprise?
That was a pretty good implied callback tooSpock:"It could cure or kill." It could be a beaker full of death!
This is the first time we've seen the Romulans since BOT and it's not unreasonable to think that the political landscape has changed since then. Perhaps there was a loophole in the treaty revision that Romulan "patrol vessels" can exploit? If you doubt this, remember that these are the same Federation lawyers who signed away their rights to develop cloaking technology a few decades later though. They are not the brightest bunchAs soon as a Federation ship goes into the Neutral Zone, Romulan ships are there to attack as if they were there all along, as if the Neutral Zone was their territory. I thought it was a NEUTRAL Zone. What right do the Romulans have to charge into the Neutral Zone and start firing? If a Romulan ship strays into the Neutral Zone, do Federation Starships get to charge in and start firing at them? It is good to see the Romulans again.
Yeah, June 2018 was his last post! Surprising.This thread is pretty interesting to read. I'm a bit too late to the game as I just started my own production order rewatch (I'm only up to "Charlie X" at this point).
It's interesting to see the guy that started the thread, Archivist, disappeared last year. I mean, people drop off all the time, but in an ongoing discussion thread like this I wonder what happened (nothing bad I hope). Well, in any event, whatever happened the spirit of Archivist lives on in this thread, and it's a good one to look over as I proceed with my own rewatch.
This thread is pretty interesting to read. I'm a bit too late to the game as I just started my own production order rewatch (I'm only up to "Charlie X" at this point).
Technically, they were not aging, they were suffering from radiation sickness which only resembled aging. The cure just fixed the radiation damage, it did not reverse their real aging which is a whole different biological process.I'm also skeptical of the reverse aging process. Why can't they apply that process to everyone as they age?
We seem to forget that people either lose the password, the interest or their lives while not on the forum! None of us can second guess that..ever!
JB
Re: Chekov. This is the guy who in the Apple, with redshirts dying all around him and everyone on the ship about to die a horrible death which would leave him and the remaining landing party stranded on a planet literally trying to kill them, was perfectly content to canoodle with Martha. He's rather oblivious to such things.The Deadly Years
Once again watching with a more critical attitude I've noticed some things that never seemed to occur to me.
The biggest by far is how this episode is "tailored" to fit for time yet include all of it's points.
A new malady makes the Captain not fit for command while there is a visiting Commodore aboard. Said commodore causing an emergency which causes the newly fixed captain to save everyone. There's so much shorthand in this one, the cure doesn't just stop the process, it puts them all back to normal, in moments!
There are so many details about this set up that just don't happen any other time.
How often do Commodores hitch rides to a starbase? Why is Dr. Wallace there? Plus, they are near the Romulan neutral zone.
The landing party goes to visit a colony, Chekov gets scared but is somehow immune to what happens to everyone else. The people from the colony die but somehow the last two are still alive to die on the Enterprise even though the comet seemed like it went through some time ago.
There are several orders Kirk gives that he really doesn't normally, given in such a way that they could be misunderstood because we have to show that he's afflicted.
It's one long sequence of trying to cram something in to 50 minutes. Medical mystery, courtroom drama, enemy attack, and the hero's triumphant return. It's not bad but it seems a bit contrived to me this time.
Another thing, Stocker is set up as a fool but he really isn't that bad. He's watching the captain of the ship lose his mind in front of him and he's not supposed to do anything?
I'm not sure why Kirk wouldn't go to the starbase except to continue to take sensor readings of the area, but it again strikes me as a constructed conflict.
All of the scientists and labs working around the clock and none of them found any cure, it was just Dr. McCoy, aged as he is, remembering "ancient" medical information while Kirk and Spock are just talking about what happened on the planet. Why didn't they do this little sit down before the whole hearing business?
So Stocker says at the end of the hearing set a direct course for starbase 10, Sulu then says "across the neutral zone?" That's direct? Maybe the zone curves and point A and B are across part of it, doesn't this ship steer? And at Warp 5, why not 6 or 8 even. I'd think going warp 8 around the zone would be faster than 5 through it. Plus isn't it a treaty violation to go into the zone? This guy is breaking a treaty and risking war because.... why?
And Sulu doesn't offer any assistance to anyone in this one, he comes of as a real drone. Uh I did that already sir. How about "can I have some clarification"
Chekov also isn't too good in this one, he seems like a selfish brat, shits himself on duty and then later just bitches about helping out. When he's saying his little speech about surviving but not enjoying it Sulu or anyone could have just turned and said, Hey, the captain is dying and you're whining about helping him?
There'd be a line of volunteers to donate blood or whatever was needed if they could and you're whining about having a physical?
The premise of fear causing adriniline which makes a person immune to this peculiar radiation and the little talk in sickbay is very remenisant of Opperation: Annihalate. The labs didn't do jack then either.
These Romulan ships look the same but they sure act differently. There seems to be at least 5, Sulu says maximum of ten, and they pummel the Enterprise when the first Romulan sent them running with one shot. They must be smaller patrol ships but no one says anything.
I like the Code 2 corbomite self destruct ruse but it's so contrived to get there, I wonder if the writer constructed the script around it. We need something to make Kirk temporarily dumb so he can come back at the end to be super cool.
This is one of those competently done but not very remarkable episodes. It's strange because season 2 has several of these but season 3 is the one everyone complains about. This episode also suffers from season 2 humor, they just had to wedge some silliness in there. I'd have preferred less of that and just a moment more of respect for Lt. Galloway. It's like she's dead, oh well. It was her own damn fault what with her metabolism. I think I'm starting to prefer season 3 over season 2, even with it's duds it didn't try to be as "cute".
Execution really puts this as better than it is. All of the actors really sell the infirmity they are supposed to be experincing, especially like how Shatner keeps his hands and Nimoy's slow limp. The costuming department really comes through too, giving everyone poorly fitting uniforms to help the look that something is wrong.
I agree that Carmel does a brilliant job of being comedic with sinister undertones and I love Stella but otherwise I don't really like this one. If they had linked these androids to Exo III, I would have disliked them less.
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