Prediction: How many seasons?

[Nombrecomun]

Four would be great given current climate for tv/streaming etc....

As others have said, if Discovery can get 5 then I don't know why SNW couldn't get more given that it's so much better.

Then again, we're only maybe(hopefully) getting 2 for Prodigy and that first season was fantastic.

 

[Ithekro]

Enough to get to 2265 and the transfer of command to Captain Kirk. With maybe something about the crew members that don't continue on the Enterprise.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Before when this came up I said 5. Now I'm saying three, with a TV movie or two afterwards.

 

[drt]

I think pre-strike it would probably would have been five seasons easy. Unfortunately, the strike doesn't seem like it's ending anytime soon, I think this will ultimately cost us a season.

 

[Dee1891]

I would have canceled it by now, but I suspect it might last for another 2 or 3 three seasons.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I would have canceled it by now, but I suspect it might last for another 2 or 3 three seasons.

You got the math for that?

 

[Enterprise is Great]

Before the strike I would’ve said it would last 5 seasons but now it’ll probably go just four. I could see them filming season 4 back to back to with season 3.

 

[StarMan]

It's a bit like the stock market. When it was blue skies, fans were bullish as hell and anticipated spin-offs flying off the production line. Now that market dynamics have shifted - as they were always going to - bearish sentiment has fans doom and gloom-ing that Paramount are about to close shop on one of their most important IPs, or Paramount itself is about to fold.

The truth often ends up falling somewhere less dramatic.

 

[ELCHawk]

I read somewhere today where one of the creators was on Ciroc Lofton's podcast and said he feels it is just the beginning and could do 10 seasons. He also said he wishes Paramount + was smart and ordered 20 episodes a season.

 

[Jack Wolfe]

I read somewhere today where one of the creators was on Ciroc Lofton's podcast and said he feels it is just the beginning and could do 10 seasons. He also said he wishes Paramount + was smart and ordered 20 episodes a season.

From his mouth to the Prophets' ears.

 

[Grizzlor]

Could you post the actual information you have that shows the numbers they are loosing on this show? Like, statistics and such?
I don't have time for useless bullshit. I am also 100% the kind of man that will say 'you were right' if you can.
Random YouTube video's don't count. I want the literal EXACT numbers from accountants and the books that the studios have that show what goes out and what comes in terms of money.
I'm really tired of comments without numbers or facts to back it up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_deficit_financing

I'm talking about "deficit financing," this was how scripted series worked, financially, for idk 5 or 6 decades. Studio sells the show to network at below production costs, expecting to recoup that shortfall and more in syndication and other rights like home video. That is what I was referring to. 20 years ago, Paramount could sell a show to UPN or even right into first-run syndication. They could resell it later on syndication and home video, whatever. There was a system. That is no longer applicable to streaming, where the vast majority of content is produced in-house, with lesser chance of selling it in syndication or home video. That's all gone. You're not selling a license fee to another network, not selling to syndication, etc. Plus science fiction shows like Star Trek cost a lot of money to produce. Anyone can deduct simply that Paramount is losing money on this and all its series. How do you recoup with streaming? You charge higher and higher sub fees, add advertising, and crack down on password sharing, etc.

https://cordcuttersnews.com/comcast-disney-paramount-lost-8-4-billion-on-streaming-in-2022/

That article claims Paramount+ might turn a profit in 2025. Paramount will not officially report production costs on Star Trek, but Discovery was notable for costing 8-8.5 million early on. SNW according to the below costs $7 million an episode. That's a lot of money, but doesn't really prove much given that we don't have Paramount+'s balance sheet to look at.

https://www.cbr.com/strange-new-worlds-court-martial-comparison-tos/

Now, SNW has done very well numbers wise, and the studio is very pleased. So much so, that you will likely see more "Classic Trek" era stuff like this, and perhaps some more Legacy aka post-TNG era, but little of anything else.

 

[ELCHawk]

I wish P+ would just drop Academy and focus on
A. SNW and eventually another TOS Era series.
B. Lower Decks: Animation is cheaper and it is popular.
C. Post TNG Era. Basicslly the Star Trek Legacy that I and a lot want. Those would be 3 fine shows.

SNW has been a top 10 streaming show and I believe Legscy could too.

I wish there were more episodes per season for SNW since it is episodic. I know that will never happen though.

 

[Ometiklan]

I think we will get a least 5 and hopefully more. SNW is the flagship, the most popular ongoing show (lots of legacy eyeballs for PIC s3, but that is over now), and getting good ratings. I don't see Paramount dropping it anytime soon, even with the strike complications. Even if Paramount was forced to cut Trek production to the bone due to the ongoing fallout of the streaming wars, I think they would retain SNW (flagship! well-known!) and LDS (cheaper, remote production, no current issues with labor contracts).

I wonder if, when the strikes end, if SNW will be produced in two half-season batches for season 3. To get the first ones out there about 1 year post-strike. Then the other 5 (or however many) coming 6 months later? Might be a good approach if they are/were fairly far along in writing episodes and doing pre-production.

 

[spinnerlys]

That’s either 17 years of 10 episodes or 26 episodes a season.

In other words unlikely? Schade.
Well, I hope five seasons at least.

This ain't the 1990s!

Well, somewhere it will be.
Though some shows still have 20 episodes per season, though those are network shows.

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

As others have said, if Discovery can get 5 then I don't know why SNW couldn't get more given that it's so much better.

That's not how TV works.a lot of the time.
You also have know way of knowing how good SNW will be by season 5. Could be way past it's sell by at that stage.

 

[Lord Garth]

I'm still going with 5. For now.

I know Akiva Goldsman wants 20 episodes per season, but I think that won't happen. They don't like to release seasons until after they've wrapped and finished post-production. That means either: 1) the wait between seasons would be longer than it already is, or 2) they'll release the seasons in two parts, and the gaps would be so long that they'd effectively be different "seasons". Which defeats the purpose. You'd be getting more episodes per season, but not more episodes per calendar year.

So 5 seasons, 10 episodes per season, 50 episodes total. Plus a TV Movie for the 60th Anniversary. 2026. They have the ship, they have most of the crew already recast (and probably all of them by the time we get to '26), how do they not do anything with Kirk in command of the Enterprise? It's practically a gimme.

 

[Nombrecomun]

That's not how TV works.a lot of the time.
You also have know way of knowing how good SNW will be by season 5. Could be way past it's sell by at that stage.

Absolutely correct. I don't know how tv works a lot of the time. The fact that Firefly and Star Trek Prodigy both got one season but Picard got 3 and Discovery will go out with 5 bewilders me.

To take your point from a different perspective, quality doesn't seem to be an impediment to longevity.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I think pre-strike it would probably would have been five seasons easy. Unfortunately, the strike doesn't seem like it's ending anytime soon, I think this will ultimately cost us a season.

May even cost us the show. S2 could be it…

 

[fireproof78]

I do not expect Season 3.

I hope I am wrong but that is where I am at.

 

[Campe]

I think that SNW is showing up consistently on the Nielsen streaming list is excellent news for at least a 3rd and 4th season once the strikes wrap up. I make no guesses beyond that these days. Hopeful to take the series all the way up to Kirk taking the Enterprise. But we'll see.