I hear you saying "no", but I think you're really saying "yes, YES!"
*Potential Spoilers* What will the Alternate Enterprise-A look like
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But the alternate Abrams Enterprise already looks like A with all those phaser and torpedo (secondary hull, near main deflector) ports.So, it appears that we MIGHT see the demise of the Big E in Star Trek Beyond, according to the previews.
While that is not certain, based on the preview, things don't looks good for Enterprise. Assuming Enterprise is damaged BEYOND repair (pun intended :P), what are your thoughts on what the inevitable NEXT Enterprise-A (we'll call it that tentatively, at least)?
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Here are mine:
In the Countdown comics, Robert April's Enterprise was depicted. Which looked an awful lot like a cross between the original TOS Connie, and the current alternate Enterprise.
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While not exactly canon, it is pretty close to being canon. So, is it is a reasonable assumption that if there is an Enterprise-A, it will be a new design but resemble the 2009 Alternate version, with a few mods here or there? I can't imagine it deviating too far from the classic Jefferies design and silhouette. After all, the 2009 version didn't.
Maybe it will be a design that is new, possibly one that incorporates some feedback about fan complaints? What if it it resembles Gabriel Koerner's rendition?
Or, what if they go the alternate constitution-refit route
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Or they could pull a TVH, and keep it the same and just paint an A on it. Although that would be self-defeating.
So what are your thoughts?
Just wanted to say it!
@PhaserLightShow
I'm not sure you understood his post then, because he "just said" the same thing.But the alternate Abrams Enterprise already looks like A with all those phaser and torpedo (secondary hull, near main deflector) ports.
Just wanted to say it!
Just looked this up and I see you are right. I think Pike being KO'd on the Enterprise would be better than some training exercise.
Actually, reading what happened to Pike, it feels like it influenced some key plot points of TWOK.
Justin Lin:
"I didn't come in saying 'Let's destroy.' It was more like, 'Let's deconstruct'... [Simon Pegg, Doug Jung, and I] felt that with this being the 50th anniversary of 'Star Trek', let's deconstruct it and hopefully rebuild it in a way that reaffirms why we've loved it for half a century. That conversation went a lot of different places, and one of the most interesting places was the Enterprise itself.
I remember watching it as a kid and saying, 'That's a cool-looking spaceship, but it looks really lanky. Is it built for combat?' It took me a while to realize that they're not out there to fight. It's an explorer's ship, so of course it looks like that."
http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/04/ju...ike-hes-making-the-biggest-budgeted-fan-film/
"I didn't come in saying 'Let's destroy.' It was more like, 'Let's deconstruct'... [Simon Pegg, Doug Jung, and I] felt that with this being the 50th anniversary of 'Star Trek', let's deconstruct it and hopefully rebuild it in a way that reaffirms why we've loved it for half a century. That conversation went a lot of different places, and one of the most interesting places was the Enterprise itself.
I remember watching it as a kid and saying, 'That's a cool-looking spaceship, but it looks really lanky. Is it built for combat?' It took me a while to realize that they're not out there to fight. It's an explorer's ship, so of course it looks like that."
http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/04/ju...ike-hes-making-the-biggest-budgeted-fan-film/
I have a theory what that means...
Parts of the ship will be salvaged, including the saucer section. We see that the saucer is still intact on the planet in the trailer. The trailer clearly shows a nacelle being ripped from the ship, so those ugly nacelles are going folks. There going to give us a new Enterprise thats more true to the original! I think thats the reward to the fans. Lets hope we see the refit / reconstruction in SPACE!
This is a good sign & I'm glad he understands that these ships weren't built with war in mind.
Pike's Enterprise was supposed to be the "newest flagship". This could well be argued to mean war specifically, i.e. a role in commanding a formation of ships. It would be more difficult to argue the expression meant NCC-1701 would be an exploration vessel - even though she apparently was being sent to perform this very mission type at the start of ST:ID, the five-year mission that Kirk was so excited about.
Did it perhaps help Pike against Nero that the Enterprise was a warship while the cadet-crewed ones were not?
Timo Saloniemi
Did it perhaps help Pike against Nero that the Enterprise was a warship while the cadet-crewed ones were not?
Timo Saloniemi
I never got the impression that the Nu-Enterprise was a warship. Aside from the bulking up of the size & the associated power boost there's nothing about it that seems all that war ready. For one thing, she has a bunch of huge open interior spaces like the engine hull & central core in the saucer - this is the opposite of how a battleship should be designed. Her weapons also don't seem all that powerful either. And she seems to get crippled pretty easily in STID by an actual warship.
We don't really know what makes for a good battleship in Star Trek terms, though. Big interior spaces seem to be a feature of the Vengeance as well - including ones that seemingly allow for a fatal chain reaction to proceed from a small craft / long range torpedo hangar to the main powerplant!
The Enterprise might not have been built for war, despite the "flagship" thing, but supposedly she was still built during a buildup for war, the very same Klingon war that Admiral Marcus tries to promote.
Timo Saloniemi
The Enterprise might not have been built for war, despite the "flagship" thing, but supposedly she was still built during a buildup for war, the very same Klingon war that Admiral Marcus tries to promote.
Timo Saloniemi
Who cares. If the plot needs it to be strong and defend-able it will be, and vice versa. EOS I just want the new design to be beautiful (to me) again.
I doubt she was, the STID modifications were as tacked on as the changes to the Enterprise-E in Nemesis. An afterthought to bulster her weaponry after a bad encounter.
Vengeance had the advantage of being built by the same people, knowing both designs inside and out, every weakness. That skewed the fight a lot more in Marcus' favour. I doubt the Klingons would have managed anything near that.
I'm betting on red bussards..
I'm betting on swept back Nacelle pylons (akin to the Prime-verse 1701 Refit) supporting, with different looking nacelles (possible a scale-down USS Vengeance style nacelle with red bussards, sitting within the bussard housings). Also - the Primary saucer essentially looking the same, with the same longer/upgraded red impulse section. The 'neck' will also be the same, but the primary deflector will still look pretty much the same, except be recessed - also akin to the Prime-verse 1701 Refit/Ent-A.
Seriously, all I want is red/red-orange bussards. My major gripe has always been how much blue glow the ship has all over it.
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I would be very happy with this, it's time for a new ship.Just gimme this and I'll be happy:
I like this design but feel it would be better for an Enterprise E or something. I DO like those pylons though.Just gimme this and I'll be happy:
Naw, save that one for the new series, give it the awesomeness it deserves.
Mark
Mark
That's funny, I feel... moved. 
The JJprise evolves into the Enterprise E.
Recess the top of the D-dish into the hull a bit to better align it with the centerline, shorten the nacelle pylons, reduce the skinniness of the nacelle aft sections and I could fall in love.
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The JJprise evolves into the Enterprise E.Recess the top of the D-dish into the hull a bit to better align it with the centerline, shorten the nacelle pylons, reduce the skinniness of the nacelle aft sections and I could fall in love.
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