Sci said:
A movie can get away with having Spock speak with some hyperbole because he's been traumatized, but there's no real reason for a novel to sustain that implausibility.
There's every reason. It's the whole point of tie-in fiction. I want to read stories building on and continuing the events of the movie,
And acknowledging something the movie's writers themselves have acknowledged does not violate that directive.
If you're gonna start "fixing" Trek,
Trek Lit has indulged in a
lot of reinterpretations of things in canonical Trek that don't quite make sense. That ship has long since sailed.
there's a LOT more that's fundamentally broken with the universe than how many people survived the destruction of two planets.
Such as...?
Because Narada is from the 24th century
I'm talking about ALL of Trek. In 45 years, Earth's defences have a 100% failiure rate.
Hmm. Let's see who's penetrated Federation defense systems for its capital planet.
1.
Star Trek: The Motion Picture. 2273. V'Ger, an artificial intelligence controlling a vessel with technology that looks to be thousands of years more advanced than anything else yet encountered in the
Star Trek Universe save extra-dimensional aliens like the Q, penetrates both Klingon and Federation defense systems and shuts down Earth's planetary defense grid. It is placated by Captain Matthew Decker of the
U.S.S. Enterprise, who merges with it before it attacks Earth. No civilian fatalities.
2.
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home. 2285. An alien Probe of unknown origin seeks contact with the extinct sapient Earth species known as humpback whales, and inadvertently causes severe damage both to space-based power systems and to Earth's climate. The Probe appears, again, to be far in advance of any technology yet encountered, possibly save V'Ger itself. Probe is placated when the extinction of the humpback whale species is reversed by the time-traveling crew of the late
U.S.S. Enterprise. Unknown civilian fatalities.
3. "The Best of Both Worlds, Part II." 2366-67. An invading Borg cube penetrates Federation defense systems and arrives in orbit of Earth. The cube is disabled by the crew of the
U.S.S. Enterprise, who hack into its systems through the rescued Captain Jean-Luc Picard. Upon detection of its systems being hacked, the cube self-destructs. The Borg appear to be hundreds of years more advanced technologically than any power in local space, and are seemingly the most advanced power encountered since V'Ger and the Probe.
4. "Homefront"/"Paradise Lost." 2372. Dominion agents detonate a bomb at a Federation-Romulan conference in Antwerp, killing 27. Two encounters with a single Changeling each later occur on the grounds of Starfleet Headquarters, during one of which the Changeling claims that only four Founders are present on Earth. There is no evidence that any Changelings ever manage to compromise Federation security any further, nor that any Changelings gain access to the interior of Starfleet Headquarters, the Palais de la Concorde, or any other secure facilities. The Dominion's technology is roughly comparable to the Federation's, though it won't be until after this attack that the Federation develops effective counter-measures against Changeling infiltration. Civilian casualties: 27.
5.
Star Trek: First Contact. 2373. Borg cube penetrates Federation defenses and fights a running battle with a huge Federation fleet, making it in orbit of Earth before being destroyed. The Borg remain far in advance of any technology possessed by local powers. Civilian casualties: 0.
6. "The Changing Face of Evil." 2375. Breen forces, newly allied with the Dominion, attack Earth, targeting the City of San Francisco, with particular emphasis on Starfleet Headquarters, Starfleet Academy, and the Golden Gate Bridge. The Breen Confederacy is roughly comparable in technological development to the Federation, though it possesses a distinct tactical advantage in its energy-dampening weapon until the Federation learns to counter its effects. This is the first time a comparable power has directly attacked the Federation capital in a conventional attack. Casualties: Unknown, possibly in the thousands.
7. "Endgame." 2377. Borg transwarp conduit opens in orbit of Earth. Single Borg sphere destroyed by the
U.S.S. Voyager and Federation armada. Collapse of the galactic Borg transwarp network. Civilian casualties: 0.
Alternate Timeline:
8.
Star Trek (2009). 2258. 24th Century Romulan mining starship
Narada (possibly outfitted with post-24th Century-level advanced Borg technology) penetrates Federation defenses after defeating Federation forces in orbit of Vulcan, directly targets Earth for destruction by attempting to drill into the crust at San Francisco Bay for the Red Matter weapon.
Narada defeated by the
U.S.S. Enterprise and the 24th Century scoutship
Jellyfish with help from a 24th Century technology given to them by the temporally displaced Ambassador Spock of 2387.
Narada was far more technologically advanced than anything the Federation of the 2250s had ever encountered. Civilian casualties: Unknown, possibly 0.
This data set ignores information from the novels.
So, we've got 8 incidents where Earth is attacked. Of those incidents, 6 involve enemies that are, frankly, so technologically advanced that defense against them is virtually impossible to defend against them. Two of those advanced entities could not be defeated at all, merely placated. One of those enemies could only be defeated through the intervention of 24th Century technology against 24th Century technology (the
Jellyfish and transwarp beaming against the
Narada). And three of those incidents were against an enemy that is far, far, far more technologically advanced than the Federation and against whom a given defense strategy can only work once before an effective counter-strategy is developed (the Borg).
Only two penetrations of Earth defense systems occur against enemies of comparable technological development. Of those, one is essentially an asymmetrical terrorist attack that is a much stronger indictment of building security than it is of planetary defense systems. One represents a genuine failure of planetary defense systems not performing adequately against an enemy it is reasonable for them to be expected to be effective against.
Given the data set, I'd say that while it's clear the Federation needs to continue advancing its planetary defense systems to find new and creative ways to thwart the Borg, it is not reasonable to say that the Federation has inferior or ineffective planetary defense systems simply because they have failed against enemies whose technologies were too advanced to be anticipated. Blaming Earth's planetary defense systems for failing against V'Ger, the Probe, the
Narada, and the Borg is akin, again, to blaming 17th Century forts for failing to defend against 21st Century aircraft carriers, submarines, and guided missile cruisers; it is not a reasonable evaluation of their effectiveness given the levels of technology that were known to exist at the time of their development.
It's clear that the systems failed against the Breen -- but it's also clear that the systems were apparently so effective in the past that no other power of comparable technological development to the Federation had ever been able to attack Earth before. That's not a bad track record.
ETA:
If we include information from the novels, I'm aware of the following incidents:
1.
Homecoming/The Farther Shore. Emergence of Borg nanoprobe virus on Earth. Thwarted by the crews of the
U.S.S. Voyager and
U.S.S. Enterprise-E. Asymmetrical attack by rogue admiral in Starfleet Intelligence using Borg technology. No failure of the planetary defense systems involved. Civilian casualties (that I recall): 0.
2.
Before Dishonor. Borg Supercube Crisis. Borg cube under the control of a Queen created through the assimilated Kathryn Janeway penetrates Federation defenses, nearly assimilates Earth before being thwarted by the crew of the
U.S.S. Enterprise-E, assisted by Spock of Vulcan, Seven of Nine, and the re-emerged persona of Kathryn Janeway within the Collective. Borg technology remains far in advance of Federation technology. Civilian casualties: Unknown.
3.
Destiny. Borg Invasion of 2381. Borg armada penetrates Federation, Klingon, Romulan defenses and destroys an allied expeditionary force. Numerous planets destroyed, hundreds of billions killed. Borg defeated through intervention of advanced race known as the Caeliar. Borg Collective remained far in advance of Federation technology.
All three incidents involve the Borg -- again, a power so advanced that the Federation cannot reasonably be blamed for being incapable of thwarting them through military means. Federation attempts to defeat the Borg remain akin to 17th Century attempts to defeat 21st Century technology.