Spoilers Please explain the baddie plan
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This doesn't relate to the villians motivations or plans in this season and doesn't really require extensive amounts of justification given this has happened before in Star Trek history. Riker was allowed to remain first officer of the Federation Flagship despite having been an active and willing participant in a conspiracy to violate the Treaty of Algeron.
Every season of PIC has ended up being a narrative embarrassment by the end, with these ridiculously convoluted plots that you have to have a lot of mental fiber and effort to give a shit about.
No matter how much work the actors, set designers, music composition regurgitator, and directors whose name rhymes with rakes put into it, the ball gets dropped by writing at the end. It's the same problem Discovery had but writ larger. I wanted to like this show at the beginning of every season, and it gave a lot of fun stuff for the fans, but they always went for the highest difficulty tricks they were completely ill equipped with talent to perform.
And it did not have to be that way. All viewers wanted for season 3 was a decent return of the cast, a good adventure. They didn't need to revisit all the big bad guys of the past, connect every dot, get Raffi on drugs again, (and seeing as Picard showrunners love killing off the young, lets just assume that Geordi will be getting a folded up UFP flag or two by ep 10.). There didn't need to be yet another Galaxy Ending Crisis of Totally Devastating Consequences That Nobody Could Foresee.
For people who liked it, I'm glad you liked it. It's a better legacy for the TNG cast than Nemesis but that's not really jumping over a high bar. In 10 years this series will be forgotten except for the fans, and even the fans will have mostly moved on.
No matter how much work the actors, set designers, music composition regurgitator, and directors whose name rhymes with rakes put into it, the ball gets dropped by writing at the end. It's the same problem Discovery had but writ larger. I wanted to like this show at the beginning of every season, and it gave a lot of fun stuff for the fans, but they always went for the highest difficulty tricks they were completely ill equipped with talent to perform.
And it did not have to be that way. All viewers wanted for season 3 was a decent return of the cast, a good adventure. They didn't need to revisit all the big bad guys of the past, connect every dot, get Raffi on drugs again, (and seeing as Picard showrunners love killing off the young, lets just assume that Geordi will be getting a folded up UFP flag or two by ep 10.). There didn't need to be yet another Galaxy Ending Crisis of Totally Devastating Consequences That Nobody Could Foresee.
For people who liked it, I'm glad you liked it. It's a better legacy for the TNG cast than Nemesis but that's not really jumping over a high bar. In 10 years this series will be forgotten except for the fans, and even the fans will have mostly moved on.
Listen, honestly. I have no problem with people liking it but I have a problem with people telling me it's amazing. 10/10 every episode. You don't have to respond to me, but please, don't place me into a group of people that I have no idea about, banned or whatever. I love Star Trek, particularly the old stuff. I'm allowed a voice. And I'm not a person who just shouts, "it's sh£te," I hope I back it up. And if everyone thought the same we'd be Borg by the way, which would be a fate worse than death.
She did drugs, once, as part of her cover. She wasn't on them again.
Nope.
All Star Trek is forgotten within two years. It's not that popular outside of the niche fanbase of scifi/science fantasy.
It doesn't have the casual fanbase like Star Wars does, never will. The fact that there is any sort of Star Trek still around is an act of multimedia divine providence.
It's what happens when you center a Trek show around a single person. The same thing happened when Star Trek Discovery basically became Star Trek: Burnham. There are many similarities in the flaws in both shows, but strangely enough fans of Picard don't see the similarities in Discovery. Every single season has a galaxy ending catastrophe. Every single season has only the main character able to save the day. All the other characters around them are basically reduced to morons to emphasize the heroism of the main character (the newest low being Jack running off to take on a Borg cube all by himself, which even a Pakled wouldn't do).
That isn't what Jack ran off to do
I'm talking about 7 episodes ago or whatever. She should have been in a cell after that.
She did drugs once because the writers thought it would be a fun cheap tear jerker. They don't give a damn about character development. Whatever resolutions and growth she had just got yanked out from under her like a rug so that they could install Sensei Worf to help her resolve her issues. Were they resolved? We don't know. They pretty much abandoned her character the minute the old guard got back together.
Again, ridiculous. Should never have happened and in not in keeping with his initial character.
Most Star Trek characters should be. Spock hijacked the enterprise, Data hijacked the Enterprise. Riker violated the treaty of Algeron. Picard has violated orders a few times. Kirk and most of his senior staff stole the Enterprise, all that happened was Kirk got a demotion and his crew didn't get any punishment.
Should have been under lock and key, but sure look how little he cared about his crews death in the last episode because he was killing vermin with the crew of the Enterprise.
He tried to singlehandedly assassinate the Borg Queen, which basically requires taking on a Borg cube.
What show have you been watching, he cares for his crew.
Once, and they were explained. Nothing is explained in this show. Nothing is spoken about. No consequences for any actions. Easy to pluck out moments of a show that lasted seven seasons and take pot shots at it.
They actually weren't.
What happened with Shaw is the realization that despite having gone about it in an extralegal way..Picard, Riker, Seven, etc were all completely right and justified in what they did.
Again, completely and utterly within the established character traits of moral Star Trek captains lol.
Shaw followed the exact character arc that has been shown to be common.
Again, completely and utterly within the established character traits of moral Star Trek captains lol.
Shaw followed the exact character arc that has been shown to be common.
He shot them in the last episode for feck's sake. Was shooting them all over the shop. The fella who was losing it in the holodeck with Picard and now he's dying for the same fecker who allowed Jack to escape the Titan in a shuttlecraft. Good lord.
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