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Spoilers Please explain the baddie plan

Furthermore, keep in mind that she is out of resources, she cannot even repair her own cube, the entire thing is falling apart around her.
Prodigy showed there was at least one Borg cube active between Voyager and Picard that had an army of drones that could still walk around and do basic tasks, and they assimilated a Medusan in that episode
 
Jack himself is useless, she needs the protein receptor to be put into the under 25 year olds, and for that she needs high level Starfleet Infiltration.

Also keep in mind that cloak and daggers is an alien (no pun intended) concept to the Borg, their modus operandi is a frontal assault. Furthermore, keep in mind that she is out of resources, she cannot even repair her own cube, the entire thing is falling apart around her. It would not surprise me if she is going all in here.

As for the rogue Changelings. She has to be careful with seeking alliances, if Starfleet gets word of it, it is game over. So, she cannot just openly go searching for allies. For good reason, the Dominion apparently has some intelligent assets infiltrating the rogue Changelings, since Odo was aware that something is going on. Starfleet Intelligence also come close to putting the dots together.

I was told over three weeks ago here that the story is all about Jack, which it unfortunately is actually. You're filling in blanks here (mental gymnastics) to accept this terrible script. The Borg cube looked terrifying, no? Can't have it both ways. The cube was within shuttlecraft range (ridiculous) , but it's still underpowered, falling apart?
 
The Borg cube looked terrifying, no? Can't have it both ways. The cube was within shuttlecraft range (ridiculous) , but it's still underpowered, falling apart?

When Jack arrived in the shuttle, the cube wasn't there, it didn't appear until after the computer announced a transwarp conduit.

It wasn't waiting for him where he found it, and if it was underpowered and falling apart, and had only one transwarp trip left in it, it makes sense to wait until it's actually required in Federation space rather than sitting there hoping not be found for weeks or months.
 
When Jack arrived in the shuttle, the cube wasn't there, it didn't appear until after the computer announced a transwarp conduit.

It wasn't waiting for him where he found it, and if it was underpowered and falling apart, and had only one transwarp trip left in it, it makes sense to wait until it's actually required in Federation space rather than sitting there hoping not be found for weeks or months.

Ah, I give up. Why are you reacting to what I said to another member when I was trying to highlight to the aforementioned member that his initial comments don't add up. You're grabbing one thing that I said like a dog with a bone and running with it. I'm talking about inconsistencies in storytelling.
 
I doubt the Queen knew that Picard having a kid would cause this. I imagine when he was born is when she realized it.
It was probably around that memory from Jack's childhood that the first interacted.

That the Borg needed Picard and Jack to obtain the gene sequences they put in Picard in the first place is super dumb.

It would make more sense if the renegade Changelings found out about the sequences and enacted this plan for their purposes, independent of the Borg. What's funny is the first eight episodes of the season still work 100% if that had been the case. It almost feels like at the last minute they were told, "no, it has to be Borg again."

I don't think they had control over it. Jack mutated from Picard to be able to transmit. He is clearly unique. Picard on the other hand, yeah maybe they could recreate that without grabbing his body. But it could be that he too mutated and they couldn't just create the DNA without going through the whole Locutus creation process again.

If they learned about Jack first when they detected his signal, then figured out Picard and tried to reproduce it themselves while also going for the guaranteed solution in the body it can be made to work with less mental gymnastics that what is required to accept the transporter tech.
 
No, read your reply again. I take what I typed back now. Absolutely crazy, no offense. Proper filling in the blanks if ever I saw it.

The only way the plot was ever going to get to its big climax was if Jack got to the Borg ship. Very simple. Very idiotic
 
It was probably around that memory from Jack's childhood that the first interacted.



I don't think they had control over it. Jack mutated from Picard to be able to transmit. He is clearly unique. Picard on the other hand, yeah maybe they could recreate that without grabbing his body. But it could be that he too mutated and they couldn't just create the DNA without going through the whole Locutus creation process again.

If they learned about Jack first when they detected his signal, then figured out Picard and tried to reproduce it themselves while also going for the guaranteed solution in the body it can be made to work with less mental gymnastics that what is required to accept the transporter tech.

You're in trouble when you use language like, "I don't think, it could be that, if they learned." Filling in the blanks because we've been told so little for so long.
 
The only way the plot was ever going to get to its big climax was if Jack got to the Borg ship. Very simple. Very idiotic
I wonder if new Data still has enhanced speed and strength. He should have been able to stop Jack quite easily. And the Titan suddenly forgot tractor beams, etc.
 
I wonder if new Data still has enhanced speed and strength. He should have been able to stop Jack quite easily. And the Titan suddenly forgot tractor beams, etc.

Ah, don't start; we'd be here all day. Shaw giving himself up for a group of morons who've killed half of his crew. He should be shooting Picard in the back. And then with his final breath naming Seven of 9 captain. In the middle of a Borg conspiracy.
 
Ah, don't start; we'd be here all day. Shaw giving himself up for a group of morons who've killed half of his crew. He should be shooting Picard in the back. And then with his final breath naming Seven of 9 captain. In the middle of a Borg conspiracy.
Shaw's very by the book. She's still technically first officer, so upon his death she gets command, despite how he might feel about it.
 
Shaw's very by the book. She's still technically first officer, so upon his death she gets command, despite how he might feel about it.

She shouldn't have been second in command after her carry on a few episodes ago, especially since Shaw didn't like her or the Borg in the first place. None of it adds up.
 
And he was by the book... at the very start of the show. But he lost that part of his character so quickly. Which is a pity because he was right initially. Should have dumped them in a shuttlecraft early doors
 
It's always a little interesting to me when certain screen names go silent or get muted/suspended/banned and then older ones start posting again.
This has nothing to do with the thread subject of the Borg's plan in Picard and seems more like implying things about real life posters. Obviously Trek forum topics go off topic all the time but I don't think this detour is a particularly safe direction for anyone to be discussing.
 
Chain of command still exists and hasn't been charged.

Why was she still second in command after her actions and how Shaw was as a character when we initially met him? And she annoyed him a few times over, not just the once. The fella we met from the start would never tolerate that kinda thing, and yet when the Borg conspiracy was unveiled he decided to give her the Titan in his dying breath? She shouldn't have had that rank at that stage. But the crew of the Titan and how they operate isn't important to the plot. Even though we were on that ship for the majority of the season.
 
Why was she still second in command after her actions and how Shaw was as a character when we initially met him? And she annoyed him a few times over, not just the once. The fella we met from the start would never tolerate that kinda thing, and yet when the Borg conspiracy was unveiled he decided to give her the Titan in his dying breath? She shouldn't have had that rank at that stage. But the crew of the Titan and how they operate isn't important to the plot. Even though we were on that ship for the majority of the season.
Who should he have given command to then? Most of the crew transferred to the Intrepid and the skeleton crew they had were mostly assimilated.
 
Why was she still second in command after her actions and how Shaw was as a character when we initially met him? And she annoyed him a few times over, not just the once. The fella we met from the start would never tolerate that kinda thing, and yet when the Borg conspiracy was unveiled he decided to give her the Titan in his dying breath? She shouldn't have had that rank at that stage. But the crew of the Titan and how they operate isn't important to the plot. Even though we were on that ship for the majority of the season.
I guess you missed the scene where Shaw reinstated her, even pantomimed knighting her as he did so?
 
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