Playstation 3 frustration

[Plecostomus]

As I understand it the 40 gig version (which I have) does not play PS2 games. The 80 gig version does. Furthermore I understand that the 80gig version runs PS2 games using a software translation or somesuch technobabble, and the that the hardware is in effect exactly the same.

Now why does the 40 gig not have the ability to play PS2 stuff? It seems a trivial matter to just install the required software, yet that doesn't seem to be an option. Does the version-crippling actually extend into hardware rendering it unable to play PS2 stuff?



I wish I had been more specific when I requested a PS3 as my bonus. I am indeed grateful for the fact that I more or less got one for free (only had to work 600+ hours of overtime!) but the inability to play PS2 stuff kind of vexes me.

 

[Trekker4747]

My roomate's PS3 had suddenly decided to no loger recongise the controller wirelessly.

 

[rType]

"With the Xbox next generation coming in November of this year, the current Xbox will become last generation. With that, the Xbox will kill itself. The only way to save it is to have 100% backwards compatibility from the first day. However, it seems that [Microsoft] cannot make that commitment."
- Ken Kutaragi

 

[TemporalFlux]

When I heard about the coming changes, I broke down and bought one of the 60 gig versions before they went out of stock. The 60 gig has the PS2 hardware built into it, so it will play every PS2 game - period.

It's a shame Sony switched gears, but they had to do something to offset the rampant fail of the PS3; and part of the cost cutting was the PS2 compatibility.

 

[Rincewiend]

As I understand it the 40 gig version (which I have) does not play PS2 games. The 80 gig version does. Furthermore I understand that the 80gig version runs PS2 games using a software translation or somesuch technobabble, and the that the hardware is in effect exactly the same.

Now why does the 40 gig not have the ability to play PS2 stuff? It seems a trivial matter to just install the required software, yet that doesn't seem to be an option. Does the version-crippling actually extend into hardware rendering it unable to play PS2 stuff?



I wish I had been more specific when I requested a PS3 as my bonus. I am indeed grateful for the fact that I more or less got one for free (only had to work 600+ hours of overtime!) but the inability to play PS2 stuff kind of vexes me.

The 1st PS3's had 2 PS2 chips in them for PS2 backwards compatibility...
Later o only had 1 chip and the 2nd chip was emulated which meant some games couldn't be emulated correctly...
The most recent stock has none of the chips and apparently emulating both chips isn't possible...

 

[JuanBolio]

Damn. So far every Seventh-Gen console has a fair degree of suck.

 

[Hermiod]

The original US and Japanese 20gb and 60gb versions included both the Emotion Engine chip and the Graphics Synthesiser chips from the PS2.

The 60gb model originally released in Europe lost the Emotion Engine and relied upon software emulation but still included the Graphics Synthesiser. The newer 80gb version does too.

The 40gb model removed both chips and thus does not support any emulation.

I'm not convinced that at this stage that BC is all that important. Microsoft aren't concentrating on it anymore either.

 

[Caretaker]

I think I heard it best this way: the PS2 is still around, and only $120. If you want backwards compatibility, and the PS3, just buy a PS2 and a PS3 (assuming you have enough inputs on your television).

 

[bigdaddy]

You should have never bought the piece of shit, end of story.

 

[FordSVT]

I've got a small library of XBox games I never touch. I've got a 360 that always has a new game in it. There are very few games worth playing once prettier, more polished and enhanced versions of the same games come out. The occasional RPG maybe, but not much else.

 

[jeff lebowski]

You should have never bought the piece of shit, end of story.

Piece of shit?

The PS3 is one of the the best pieces of consumer electronics equipment I've ever owned, and as PC Technician and lifelong Home theater buff, that's not a small statement.


To the original poster:

You can buy 100% PS2 compatibility for $130 or less.

 

[Plecostomus]

Hopefully a PS3 version of Warship Gunner comes out. I bet it'd rock with the PS3's hardware.

 

[BigFoot]

You should have never bought the piece of shit, end of story.

Piece of shit?

The PS3 is one of the the best pieces of consumer electronics equipment I've ever owned, and as PC Technician and lifelong Home theater buff, that's not a small statement.


To the original poster:

You can buy 100% PS2 compatibility for $130 or less.

Agreed. I've had A TON of electronics equipment over the years, and my PS3 is definitely right at the top of my favourites list.

 

[Hermiod]

^Mine too. It's a great machine.

 

[Plecostomus]

You should have never bought the piece of shit, end of story.

Piece of shit?

The PS3 is one of the the best pieces of consumer electronics equipment I've ever owned, and as PC Technician and lifelong Home theater buff, that's not a small statement.

Bigdaddy makes his own video game systems from scratch. He etches the boards, burns the chips and hand-wires each one. His video-game systems are the system that Jesus will request upon His return to our world. Compared to his efforts everything else is rightfully called "piece of shit" because no one can top Bigdaddy and his engineering skills. Truly he is the best that's ever been.

[\\set_mode_"SARCASTIC"=OFF]

 

[splodenode]

i'm still playing the sega genesis

 

[unimatrix7]

As I understand it the 40 gig version (which I have) does not play PS2 games. The 80 gig version does. Furthermore I understand that the 80gig version runs PS2 games using a software translation or somesuch technobabble, and the that the hardware is in effect exactly the same.

Now why does the 40 gig not have the ability to play PS2 stuff? It seems a trivial matter to just install the required software, yet that doesn't seem to be an option. Does the version-crippling actually extend into hardware rendering it unable to play PS2 stuff?

It's a common misconception that the US 80GB PS3 model uses pure software emulation for PS2 titles. It actually uses a mixture of software and hardware elements from the PS2. The 40GB model removed those last traces of PS2 hardware altogether, and as yet it isn't possible for the PS3 to emulate the PS2 purely through software.

Wouldn't be surprised to see it happen sooner or later though. Hang in there, sunshine.

 

[firehawk12]

I think in principle, it's the best console. It doesn't have a horrendous fail rate, it uses a standard hard drive and lets you use any type of memory card or USB device for external storage, it has built in WiFi, you can install Linux on it and online play is free.

Yet, as a game play device, the Dualshock 3 just annoys me. While the D-pad on the 360 controller is crap, everything else about it is nice.
Also, because they didn't pop in a headset with the system, almost no one uses voice chat online.
Two other technical problems make it a different experience. It has half the RAM of the 360 and the BD-ROM is slow, so you have to install games in order to play them.

 

[Hermiod]

I just wish they'd add A2DP audio support. I would absolutely love that.

 

[firehawk12]

They keep adding things through firmware... so anything's possible I guess?