Plans for any more Kelvinverse novels?

[Kelvin2019]

I did a list once, ummmm....

-The George Kirk was stuck in a transporter one
-The Space Pandemic one
-The Discovery (season 2-ish) crossover one
-The Doomsday Machine one with the Khan ending

And probably one or two i'm forgetting.

Hi! I've never heard of the (prospective) Doomsday Machine movie before, do you know any more about this one? I'd LOVE to see a movie adaptation but I've never heard anything about this Anything you know would be fascinating!

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

One thing it has in its favor is that it's an impersonal force, not another angry anti-Federation/Starfleet person.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Hi! I've never heard of the (prospective) Doomsday Machine movie before, do you know any more about this one? I'd LOVE to see a movie adaptation but I've never heard anything about this Anything you know would be fascinating!

It was from a podcast with one of the writers, like a quick 5 minutes at the end. I don't recall the writer or podcast though, I'm sorry.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Hi! I've never heard of the (prospective) Doomsday Machine movie before, do you know any more about this one? I'd LOVE to see a movie adaptation but I've never heard anything about this Anything you know would be fascinating!

UPDATE! I remembered. It was here.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Back to the novels. Maybe if SNW or DSC mentions the alternate reality again, someone will get an idea and run with it.

 

[David cgc]

UPDATE! I remembered. It was here.

Well, there's always PixelMagic's fantasy-trailer animation project.

Back to the novels. Maybe if SNW or DSC mentions the alternate reality again, someone will get an idea and run with it.

On the other hand, if the KT movies were ever to conclusively end, and more Trek novels start getting commissioned again, it could be a route to return to an ongoing storyline in the novels.

 

[Avro Arrow]

Well, there's always PixelMagic's fantasy-trailer animation project.

Is the second link supposed to go to a different place than the first?

 

[David cgc]

Is the second link supposed to go to a different place than the first?

Yes. I'm not even sure how I messed that up.

 

[JD]

I suspect some authors may feel the same way. Take the money and hope the movie never gets made.

On the other hand, most option deals are structured so that you get the bulk of the money if the option actually gets exercised. And, of course, the big payoff comes if and when your book sales skyrocket because of a hit movie or TV adaptation. That's the best case scenario, financially at least.

As it happens, a writer friend was reporting just the other day that one of his books had just been optioned for the sixth time . . . .

And a lot of the adaptations, at least the ones based on exceptionally popular books, credit the authors as producers or executive producers, so that could be another way for the author to potentially get even more money.

 

[DGCatAniSiri]

Back to the novels. Maybe if SNW or DSC mentions the alternate reality again, someone will get an idea and run with it.

I doubt it’s an issue of lack of ideas - just speaking for myself as an aspiring writer, I have metric tons of ideas. The issue is if the various gears turn enough to approve it, especially if they start putting another Kelvinverse movie into production. The two we got were originally written to tie in to the first film, as well as two others that got repurposed into Prime timeline novels, and they were stalled, as I recall, because Bad Robot, JJ Abrams’ production company, made the call to hold off on novel tie-ins not too long before publishing. That obviously changed when it seemed the Kelvinverse was stalled after Beyond, but if we get anything new coming down the pike, it might change back.

 

[Stevil2001]

Yeah, the funny thing is a new film would make tie-ins to the the new films an obvious thing for readers to care about... but also it seemed like we only got (novel) tie-ins to the new films once no one cared about them anymore!

 

[David cgc]

Yeah, the funny thing is a new film would make tie-ins to the the new films an obvious thing for readers to care about... but also it seemed like we only got (novel) tie-ins to the new films once no one cared about them anymore!

The same thing happened to Firefly. Whenever I go to the bookstore, I see, "Oh, yeah, there are Firefly tie-in novels, now, I should check those out," and I never do. I also lost track when the comic license switched over and they stopped doing a post-movie storyline and moved back to stories set during the show.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Yeah, the funny thing is a new film would make tie-ins to the the new films an obvious thing for readers to care about... but also it seemed like we only got (novel) tie-ins to the new films once no one cared about them anymore!

Well, some were reworks of earlier unpublished projects, so most of the material was there.

 

[Stevil2001]

Most scripts that are commissioned or purchased aren't actually made into movies, so that's not as much of a prodigal act as it might seem. The script is probably the least expensive part of the movie, I'm sure I've heard that virtually every screenwriter has made their living more off of selling scripts that don't get made rather than the handful that actually do. Any time you've heard of a movie that didn't actually get made being in development, somebody got paid to write a script for it.

Just thinking about this reminded me that Steve Carell was set to star in an adaptation of my 9th grade English teacher's memoir, a project that, nine years later, has never been heard from again after his involvement was announced. I'm not really sure if Carell could pull off "brutally witty yet kindhearted beatnik," but I had been interested in the prospect of seeing a movie that potentially, would include several characters based on people I knew, and definitely would have at least one.

Now I am curious. What was the memoir?

 

[David cgc]

Now I am curious. What was the memoir?

David Menasche's "The Priority List." This story from the Hollywood Reporter is the first and last thing reported about the adaptation. I'm not in the book, but a couple of my classmates got a vignette. I did see him once after he finished his roadtrip when I was doing one of my own, between when he finished the book and when it was published.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

The same thing happened to Firefly. Whenever I go to the bookstore, I see, "Oh, yeah, there are Firefly tie-in novels, now, I should check those out," and I never do.

You very much have Joss Whedon personally to blame for that state of affairs.

Pocket Books held the license for Firefly novels at a time when such novels would have been timelier. Whedon couldn't be bothered to look at the proposals, and he announced in an interview that there wouldn't be Firefly tie-ins, catching Pocket (and the potential authors) by surprise. Then, like a year later, Dark Horse Comics started publishing Firefly comics.

David Menasche's "The Priority List." This story from the Hollywood Reporter is the first and last thing reported about the adaptation. I'm not in the book, but a couple of my classmates got a vignette. I did see him once after he finished his roadtrip when I was doing one of my own, between when he finished the book and when it was published.

I wonder if Carell lost interest in the project when the script for Beautiful Boy, based on David Sheff's memoir about his son's drug addiciton, landed on his desk around the same time. Like, he might have been looking for a heartwarming, memoir-based project, and this other script was closer to completion and what he was looking to do at that point.

 

[Greg Cox]

You very much have Joss Whedon personally to blame for that state of affairs.

Pocket Books held the license for Firefly novels at a time when such novels would have been timelier. Whedon couldn't be bothered to look at the proposals, and he announced in an interview that there wouldn't be Firefly tie-ins, catching Pocket (and the potential authors) by surprise. Then, like a year later, Dark Horse Comics started publishing Firefly comics..

For what it's worth, I later cannibalized my FIREFLY outline for parts when I wrote my TERMINATOR novel.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Honestly, I've sometimes thought that might be for the best. You get paid for the option, maybe more than once, but don't have to run the risk of the movie being terrible. Although nobody's ever offered to option one of my books, and I don't have an agent, so it remains an academic question.

A friend had her award-winning children's picture book optioned, and then the option renewed a few years later, because it was recognised as similar to a script that someone was trying to get up.

 

[Greg Cox]

A friend had her award-winning children's picture book optioned, and then the option renewed a few years later, because it was recognised as similar to a script that someone was trying to get up.

Yep. Sometimes optioning a preexisting work can be cheaper than risking a lawsuit if you discover that your original project is uncomfortably similar to some earlier work. Better to buy the rights than risk getting sued later on.

 

[Christopher]

Yep. Sometimes optioning a preexisting work can be cheaper than risking a lawsuit if you discover that your original project is uncomfortably similar to some earlier work. Better to buy the rights than risk getting sued later on.

That's basically how Fredric Brown got a credit for "Arena." It also happened with The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms. It's often assumed to be an adaptation of Ray Bradbury's story of that name, but it was a separate story, and when Ray Harryhausen pointed out the similarity to the producers, they bought the rights to Bradbury's story and adopted its title to capitalize on his popularity, with Bradbury changing the story's name to "The Fog Horn" in future editions.