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Pirates Of The Caribbean: On Stranger Tides

Master & Commander: The Far Side of the World came out the same year as the 1st Pirates of the Caribbean and I don't think it did too well.
About $150 million to make, a worldwide gross of $212 million. The movie underperformed to expectations, but Russell Crowe is talking now about a sequel.

Most post-2001 Russell Crowe movies underperform. He hit a stride and then tapered off.

Not that I don't enjoy most of his work. We'll see if ROBIN HOOD hits the mark.
 
Re: Emh

There is definitely a script. The writers of the first three films wrote this one before moving onto The Lone Ranger. Johnny Depp is signed, and apparently Disney is close to signing a director (Gore Verbinski is out, Rob Marshall is said to be circling the project).
 
The third PotC movie isn't a bad film by any means; it's just not as good as the first or second, and I think the reason is that they put so much emphasis on Barbosa's return that they killed all the heat and momentum they'd developed with regards to Davy Jones and his character so that the resolution of the story fell flat. It'll be interesting to see how this new film plays out, but I'd like it to set up a new overall story arc that could possibly be continued in future films, because that, to me, is one of the franchise's strengths.
 
Wasn't there some scuttlebutt about #4 taking a sci-fi turn...?

"On Stranger Tides" could fit with that.

Maybe referring to...sailing the sea of space...???

Just sayin'...

Oh yay, another Space Octopus...

"Another space octopus"? Where was the first space octopus? How did I miss that?

Star Trek XI. The nickname for Narada up in the Trek XI forum was Space Octopus before the name Narada was released due to a script description which described it as "octopus shaped."
 
I still maintain that the little kid at the end of 3 is actually Jack (rejuvenated after an accident at the Fountain of Youth), and NOT the child of Keira and Orlando's characters.

--Ted
 
There's plenty of sex and violence and a (possible) menage a trois with Bonny's pirate husband and another female pirate!!! How could HBO or Showtime not jump at that?



Works for me! :devil:



I'm currently reading On Stranger Tides and liking it so far. If Disney has bought the rights, I think it could make the basis of an entertaining film.
 
The third PotC movie isn't a bad film by any means; it's just not as good as the first or second, and I think the reason is that they put so much emphasis on Barbosa's return that they killed all the heat and momentum they'd developed with regards to Davy Jones and his character so that the resolution of the story fell flat. It'll be interesting to see how this new film plays out, but I'd like it to set up a new overall story arc that could possibly be continued in future films, because that, to me, is one of the franchise's strengths.

I think the third movie's main problem was more that it took seriously things the other two had made fun of (or at least treated lightly). It also was at turns notably by-the-numbers (particularly at the end) and overly weird (particularly in Davey Jones's Locker and Shipwreck Cove). It also suffered a moral problem in equating piracy with Freedom (as opposed to equating only Jack's brand of piracy - really only Grand Theft Interceptor - with freedom).

It seemed unable to decide whether it wanted to be fun, weird, or an epic. The first two were just clever and fun (and adept at confounding expectations with intelligence).
 
I'm currently reading On Stranger Tides and liking it so far. If Disney has bought the rights, I think it could make the basis of an entertaining film.

Confirmation that they have:

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=59830

Speaking to the Los Angeles Times, Powers confirms that Disney optioned the book almost three years ago. But what will they use from the book? Here's a clip:

"I've watched all the movies several times, of course, and I think the clear thing they would use is the trip to the Fountain of Youth," Powers said. "My main character doesn't overlap with Jack Sparrow at all [in personality or circumstance]; they're totally different characters. I suppose they might overlap the Geoffrey Rush character Barbossa and Blackbeard. The only thing I feel certain they will hold on to is the Fountain of Youth since they telegraphed that at the end of the last movie."
It does seem, as I suspected, to be a case of buying the rights because the story matched the movie story and they didn't want any trouble:

Terry Rossio said:
"We wanted to do a story about Blackbeard and the Fountain of Youth, and Tim Powers wrote a book about Blackbeard and the Fountain of Youth... it just turns out that to do that story you would need that book"
 
^

Cool news. Powers is quite right, his main character of Jack Shandy is not at all similar to Captain Jack; if anything, the character of Captain Phil Davies could overlap with Sparrow. I just got introduced to Blackbeard in the novel, so it's too early to see how much comparison to Barbossa can be drawn.

I'm wondering if they'll cast a female lead based on the Beth Hurwood character from the novel.
 
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