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Pirates Of The Caribbean: On Stranger Tides

Wasn't there some scuttlebutt about #4 taking a sci-fi turn...?

"On Stranger Tides" could fit with that.

Maybe referring to...sailing the sea of space...???

Just sayin'...

That's been done already by Disney. Treasure Planet. It bombed.
 
Pirate movies were popular back in the days of Errol Flynn. CAPTAIN BLOOD. THE SEA HAWK, etc. And were even viable up through the fifties I think. But, yeah, they were box-office poison for decades until PotC. Indeed, at one time, CUTTHROAT ISLAND was the biggest flop in Hollywood history. I think it lost over $100 million.

(And, lucky me, I edited the novelization!)

Now, however, they're talking about remaking CAPTAIN BLOOD--but settiing it in outer space!
 
If it's not based on the Tim Powers novel, it's odd that they're using the title of another supernatural pirate yarn . . . .

From the description of the book's plot, I suspect that the process went like this:

1) they end the trilogy with a tag for the search for the fountain of youth (which is located on the map at the same spot as Disneyworld, it's just a gag)

2) they decide to actually do a movie about this

3) they discover there's already a pirate book about the fountain of youth

4) they buy the rights, just to be on the safe side, so they don't get sued and nobody else can do it to clash with theirs

5) they think, hey, we might as well use the title.
 
Those that haven't read On Stranger Tides by Tim Powers should really check it out. It's a great pirate tale.
 
Not a shock at all, let's just hope that the movie has a plot. i watched the second one and for the life on me couldn't figure out what was going on.
 
Not a shock at all, let's just hope that the movie has a plot. i watched the second one and for the life on me couldn't figure out what was going on.
If anything, the thing people complain about the second and third films is that they had too much plot (I followed it pretty easily).
 
Not a shock at all, let's just hope that the movie has a plot. i watched the second one and for the life on me couldn't figure out what was going on.
If anything, the thing people complain about the second and third films is that they had too much plot (I followed it pretty easily).

To be honest the second one bored me and i wasn't fully following it. Never even bothered with the 3rd.
 
Well, as someone who loved the first trilogy I'm happy they're doing another one. Although it won't the same without Orlando Bloom or Keira Knightley (given the events of World's End I can't see how either character could appear in the new one), as long as Depp wants to play Jack, there'll be a series. Unlike Bond, however, once he calls it a day, there's no way anyone could play the role after him.

Of course now that Marvel is part of Disney, expect a Marvel POTC comic book to be launched. Bet on it.

Alex
 
I wouldn't mind a Marvel POTC comic book, as long as they come up with a better design for the characters than those god-awful evil-looking character designs they print on the POTC party supplies.

Joy
 
Cool title! I like it. However, I'm surprised the press release says it'll be released in the summer of 2011 considering they haven't started preproduction yet. I don't think they even have a script and no one is officially cast.

I suspect all of the other studios were scared off by the fact that water movies are notoriously expensive. You can't make a cheap cash in on something so rediculously expensive.
Possibly, but even as a huge fan of the trilogy, I would like to see a straight up pirate tale.

Plus, Master & Commander: The Far Side of the World came out the same year as the 1st Pirates of the Caribbean and I don't think it did too well.
It didn't do too well, but that being said, they are being to work on a sequel.

Wasn't there some scuttlebutt about #4 taking a sci-fi turn...?

"On Stranger Tides" could fit with that.

Maybe referring to...sailing the sea of space...???

Just sayin'...
That would kill the series for good.
I would hate that and I love the crazy twists the trilogy did in the second and third films.

I'm still surprised that none of the other big studios have tried cash-in to the recent pirate craze by making their own big budget pirate movie. It's like they don't even want to risk it. It would have been nice to see other pirate movies made besides the Pirates of the Caribbean movies these last few years.
Quite. There have been recent rumblings of a Spielberg-Crichton pirate flick, though.
I've read about this, too. It's an adaptaion of Michael Crichton's last complete novel (there's another techno-thriller that's incomplete but will be finished by another author) and from what I've heard about the novel, it's a spiritual successorl to The Great Train Robbery in the sense that they're both historical novels meticulously researched. The fact that Spielberg wants to adapt it already before the novel is released (it comes out in November) has pretty excited.

Well, as someone who loved the first trilogy I'm happy they're doing another one. Although it won't the same without Orlando Bloom or Keira Knightley (given the events of World's End I can't see how either character could appear in the new one), as long as Depp wants to play Jack, there'll be a series. Unlike Bond, however, once he calls it a day, there's no way anyone could play the role after him.
As much as I love Keira Knightley I don't want to see Will and Elizabeth again because their story is complete. I want to see more Jack Sparrow and Hector Barbosa.
 
I'm still surprised that none of the other big studios have tried cash-in to the recent pirate craze by making their own big budget pirate movie.
The aggravating thing is, historical pirates were very interesting in their own right and could become the basis for a great movie series (or TV series if anyone had a budget that allowed it) that has absolutely no fantasy elements whatsoever. One of those great lost opportunities.

My nominee would be Anne Bonny, who ran away from her boring existence of privilege as a South Carolina plantation heiress for a life of piracy in the early 18th C. There's plenty of sex and violence and a (possible) menage a trois with Bonny's pirate husband and another female pirate!!! How could HBO or Showtime not jump at that?

The Spielberg-Crichton pix sounds interesting, too.
 
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Keira Knightley and Orlando Bloom not returning is the best news I've heard. They both slept their way through the last two POTC films.
 
Pirate movies were popular back in the days of Errol Flynn. CAPTAIN BLOOD. THE SEA HAWK, etc. And were even viable up through the fifties I think. But, yeah, they were box-office poison for decades until PotC. Indeed, at one time, CUTTHROAT ISLAND was the biggest flop in Hollywood history. I think it lost over $100 million.

IIRC, Cutthroat Island came out around the same time as Waterworld. Both went wildly overbudget and neither was very well liked.

Well, as someone who loved the first trilogy I'm happy they're doing another one. Although it won't the same without Orlando Bloom or Keira Knightley (given the events of World's End I can't see how either character could appear in the new one), as long as Depp wants to play Jack, there'll be a series.

The version I have in my head brings them both back for brief cameos. It's set approximately 8 months after the events of At World's End and features a very pregnant Elizabeth Turner. She'd only be in it for about 20 minutes or so. Will Turner would make a surprise appearance around the end of act 2, when the Flying Dutchman arrives to save Jack from drowning at the last minute.

I think the pressing question is what will the new movie include to replace the Will/Elizabeth storyline. Jack is a fun character but he's not very dynamic. They'd need to add something else to make the story work. I think they should try giving Jack Sparrow a love story, simply because it's one of the few things we haven't seen Jack do yet. Alternatively, since Zoe Saldana is becoming a pretty hot commodity, maybe they should bring back Ana Maria from The Curse of the Black Pearl.

Quite. There have been recent rumblings of a Spielberg-Crichton pirate flick, though.
I've read about this, too. It's an adaptaion of Michael Crichton's last complete novel (there's another techno-thriller that's incomplete but will be finished by another author) and from what I've heard about the novel, it's a spiritual successorl to The Great Train Robbery in the sense that they're both historical novels meticulously researched. The fact that Spielberg wants to adapt it already before the novel is released (it comes out in November) has pretty excited.

Last time Spielberg started adapting a Crichton novel before the novel even came out, we got Jurassic Park. I think we should be very excited about this!

I'm still surprised that none of the other big studios have tried cash-in to the recent pirate craze by making their own big budget pirate movie.
The aggravating thing is, historical pirates were very interesting in their own right and could become the basis for a great movie series (or TV series if anyone had a budget that allowed it) that has absolutely no fantasy elements whatsoever. One of those great lost opportunities.

My nominee would be Anne Bonny, who ran away from her boring existence of privilege as a South Carolina plantation heiress for a life of piracy in the early 18th C. There's plenty of sex and violence and a (possible) menage a trois with Bonny's pirate husband and another female pirate!!!

Sold!:drool:
 
A great novel about Anne Bonney is THE SWEET TRADE by Elizabeth Garrett. I recommend it highly.

It's on my bookshelf, right next to my "Anne Bonney" action figure. (Really.)
 
Master & Commander: The Far Side of the World came out the same year as the 1st Pirates of the Caribbean and I don't think it did too well.
About $150 million to make, a worldwide gross of $212 million. The movie underperformed to expectations, but Russell Crowe is talking now about a sequel.
 
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