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piracy discussion - new series

No, it says CBS All Access will be exclusive for the US. Here is what it says about international markets:

The next chapter of the Star Trek franchise will also be distributed concurrently for television and multiple platforms around the world by CBS Studios International.
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urbandefault said:
I had no trouble understanding the press release, but I do have a little trouble believing that others can't do the same. It's all there in black and white. Are people not reading all the way though and jumping to conclusions, or just being intentionally obtuse?
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Well, it depends on how it is put in the release. But, yeah, it does feel like simple points are being misunderstood.
 
In lieu of actual piracy say you live in a foreign market you could still technically setup a paid CBS AA account subscription. geolocation changes would allow you to watch CBSAA. While not illegal it would be against the Terms of Service of CBSAA.
CBS uses geolocation to determine where an All Access subscriber lives and which CBS station is available to stream, if any. This makes for an interesting loophole: Using an Android tablet and an app called “Fake GPS,” I was able to watch local CBS stations from all over the country by virtually “moving” to another metropolitan area.
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also it would allow someone on the West Coast of USA to watch a new episode of Trek if the series episodes come out at a certain time of the day in each time zone versus at midnight GMT on the day of the week. This may only be for the live TV rather than streaming on-demand.
This loophole (which is legal) could work to the advantage of CBS enthusiasts west of the Central Time Zone: Instead of waiting two or three hours for the latest episode of “The Good Wife,” a user could virtually move to any number of cities with a CBS-owned station east of the Mississippi and watch live television programming in tandem with those on the opposite coast.

In the future, CBS might close this loophole by tying live video streams to a customer’s billing address. This could be problematic for many customers though: The service is built on the idea that a customer can access anything he or she wants to from any device at any time. Anchoring the live stream to a billing address would almost certainly prevent frequent travelers from accessing one of the core features of the service, which would significantly devalue the product.
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Of course for foreign Trek fans there are always things called Commercial Mail Receiving Agencies which you technically could have a billing address on the East coast of the USA. Again use of the service outside of that time zone and United States would violate the CBSAA TOS.
 
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The show will undoubtedly be dubbed here in Germany, so what choice to I have when I want to see it in its original English language?
 
If there's a legal option to buy or Stream in here in Aus, I'll take it. The streaming service Stan seems to option a lot of US shows and release them immediately after they air there, for example- I would happily pay $10/month for just new Trek (keep in mind that old Trek is one of Stan's most successful shows!)

If there isn't, then they're not going to miss my viewership anyway, are they?
 
They'll need to ensure they air the programme internationally, with the same release date/time as the US version. They could do this via iTunes or another sharing platform like Netflix or Lovefilm. If they don't, then this will leave people with no choice but to download it illegally.

I'm happy to pay for Trek, as I want it to go onwards and back to its hey-day of the 1990s.

What I'm not happy to do, is to wait for it to be aired in the US first and for all the spoilers on Facebook, etc, which is what happens with Game of Thrones, amongst others.

I try and stay well clear of spoilers for Trek!
 
I live in a big honking plane.

Travelling around the world almost 3 times a week to watch the best TV legally.

Some people say that I could use all that Jet feul money to feed the poor.

Fuck'em, I say.
 
Well if I will get in my country the new series as in the past (1-2 years after it aired in the US) than I will do piracy. I will not wait 1-2 years and try to avoid spoilers. But if for example Netflix will show in my country with a few hours of delay or some other streaming platform that I can cast to my TV (HBO Go, Orange Movies on Demand - although I hope it will be Netflix and I really hope it won't be Orange as I don't like them) than I will pay to see the series. Also, when it comes out in blu-ray (I hope it comes out in blu-ray as I like to collect my Star Trek series) I will most definitely will buy it.
 
Dukhat said:
So by that logic you must do a lot of stealing at Walmart because they make enough money too.
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Wal-Mart is pretty trashy nowadays. It used to be nicer. I barely ever go there anymore.

No need to pay for computer games or movies. They're doing just fine, or else they wouldn't keep making them.

Anyway, I subscribe to Netflix. That's plenty. Out of principle alone CBS all-access isn't worth paying for. Those thugs with their intra-corporate fight kept ST off the air for too many years, and they robbed us of Seasons 5-7 of Enterprise.
 
AdmiralBruno said:
Wal-Mart is pretty trashy nowadays. It used to be nicer. I barely ever go there anymore.
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None of which has anything to do with the point I was making.

No need to pay for computer games or movies. They're doing just fine, or else they wouldn't keep making them.
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Tell that to Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, and any movie producer and see if they agree with you.

Anyway, I subscribe to Netflix. That's plenty. Out of principle alone CBS all-access isn't worth paying for. Those thugs with their intra-corporate fight kept ST off the air for too many years, and they robbed us of Seasons 5-7 of Enterprise.
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So I'm now at the point where I've realized that you clearly have no idea what you're talking about, so I'll now stop wasting time replying to you.
 
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AdmiralBruno said:
CBS makes enough money. I Will exercise my right to watch the show for free :)
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AdmiralBruno said:
Wal-Mart is pretty trashy nowadays. It used to be nicer. I barely ever go there anymore.

No need to pay for computer games or movies. They're doing just fine, or else they wouldn't keep making them.

Anyway, I subscribe to Netflix. That's plenty. Out of principle alone CBS all-access isn't worth paying for. Those thugs with their intra-corporate fight kept ST off the air for too many years, and they robbed us of Seasons 5-7 of Enterprise.
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Stop acting like these big corporations owe you something. It's fucking annoying.
 
Shalashaska said:
Stop acting like these big corporations owe you something. It's fucking annoying.
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Corporations don't owe me anything. Star Trek is owned by CBS and they can do whatever they want. Also, as an aside, pirating anything does nothing to change their minds. All it does is impact the bottom line making it more difficult to produce and then it goes away.

Of course, this now an anti-piracy tangent, which takes away from my larger point. I get that technology allows for file sharing more easily, but until that means a better profit margin for production companies then it's hard for me to condone, when it could be that the show I like will go away.
 
fireproof78 said:
Corporations don't owe me anything. Star Trek is owned by CBS and they can do whatever they want. Also, as an aside, pirating anything does nothing to change their minds. All it does is impact the bottom line making it more difficult to produce and then it goes away.

Of course, this now an anti-piracy tangent, which takes away from my larger point. I get that technology allows for file sharing more easily, but until that means a better profit margin for production companies then it's hard for me to condone, when it could be that the show I like will go away.
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Several articles out there say piracy doesn't put that much of a damper on production, let alone make the sky fall on a show.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkai...e-economy-a-look-at-the-numbers/#203d44133e85
http://freakonomics.com/2012/01/12/how-much-do-music-and-movie-piracy-really-hurt-the-u-s-economy/
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/digital-piracy-not-harming-entertainment-industries-study-1.1894729

The top 2 articles cite a guy from the normally pro-business Cato Institute. That should tell you something. And that's with piracy being very common behavior. Even in the pre-Internet days, I'm sure you know somebody who made ghetto cassette copies of whatever they rented from Blockbuster.
 
I have ghetto copies of a variety of films from when I was younger.

Let me be perfectly clear-yes, piracy is harmful. How harmful? I'm sure that's up for debate, as a quick search revealed. I'm not planting my anti-piracy flag here, beyond the general principle that media isn't worth purchasing. It frustrates me, knowing people in the industry, who's work is being treated like it's worthless.
 
Is the assumption that a TV pirate would suddenly pay for media if Piracy became impossible, immoral or dangerous?

I think that's rubbish.

If a person has already downloaded 6 seasons of Game of Thrones, and dozens of other shows from now and history, that is a person who has no intention of ever giving CBS money they would otherwise spend on bread and milk for their children.

Existing Pirates are not the problem.

Blood from a stone.

It's NEW pirates that are the problem.

It's when existing CBS All Access Clients, cancel their accounts and turn to torrents to supply them information, or children who should be responsible and grow up to pay taxes and pay for massive cable subscriptions, pick heroin.

Seriously the problem is not piracy, the problem is that TV isn't that important to real people with real problems.
 
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