Pick the villain for Star Trek XII!

[PeachE]

How about the tholians? It could be linked somehow to the MU and have them infusing certain realities of the MU (Enterprise one) into this timeline. It could somehow show the Defiant being sent into the regular Universe and SF somehow getting control of the ship and it's computer files.

I'm not sure I like the Mirror Univ end of it, but I think the Tholians are a definite possiblity. It'd have to be more over an overarching threat than a master villian though. I don't see some Tholian Commander working out well as a main baddy.

I think Klingons would definitely be a candidate.

I think a more interesting idea would be having a Federation baddy. Somebody from the 29th Century comes back to repair the timeline. Kirk and Spock must chase this guy down and stop him from recreating the original timeline. It might even involve them bouncing around the events of Star Trek XI (think the 50s scenese in Back to the Future 2).

 

[Broccoli]

I think the Klingons should be used. I think it would be fantastic if there was a slight bait-and-switch, where an established Klingon character (Kor, for example) was set up to be the main villain, but then both sides learn they are being played, so they team up to get main-main-baddie (who should be original).

 

[mredom]

Originally Posted by nx1701g
I want the Romulan Commander from Balance of Terror.

Yeah, and Ben Cross should play him!!!

Beat me to it!

 

[tippy]

Cast Kal Penn to fight Sulu

 

[plynch]

Let's say they were going to use an original series TV or movie villain for the sequel...who would you prefer from the following?

NO MORE "VILLAINS"!!! I have seen defeat-the-bad-guy a few times already. I know how it ends.

I would like some intelligence, not a comic book plot.

 

[Elim Garak]

If they're going to do 3 movies, I'd like to see an antagonist in the mold of Gul Dukat, Kai Winn, or Sloane (Section 31) that would appear in the next 2 movies.

As for villain of the next movie, it looks like I'm a little outside the box. I want to see the Borg again, but that's not going to happen in the next movie. So...

Duras: Nearly every "evil" Klingon has been connected to the Duras family in some way, so if the Klingons are going to be the bad guys, I say bring in whoever is the patriarch of the family during Kirk's time. A young Chang could be one of his junior officers, and Kor could still be worked in as a military accomplice/rival.

Tholians: Thanks to ENT's mirror universe two-parter, we know what they look like, and they're pretty impressive looking. With the movie budget, they'd look really cool. In terms of appearance and mindset, they're more "alien" than Klingons or Romulans. In The Tholian Web, one got the impression that they were guarding the temporal anomaly, perhaps even trying to clean things up. They are trying to fix things, and the heroes screw things up, that's an interesting dynamic.

Sheliak: If they broke away from the Federation 111 years before TNG, then they were around during Kirk's time. It's been a long time since I've seen that ep, but I think it said they were members/allies of the Federation, but then they broke away. Not a lot has been done with them, so the writers have a lot more freedom than they do with the Klingons or Romulans.

I'd like to see a Section 31 agent that could appear in more than one movie, but he/she wouldn't neccesarily be a bad guy, but could be a Garak type character.

 

[Saxman1]

I voted other: Braga and Berman, LOL!

 

[Broccoli]

I voted other: Braga and Berman, LOL!

Yeah...hilarious...

 

[NCC74894A]

I voted "Other", namely the Tholians for reasons already given.

 

[nomadharris]

I would love to see the Doomsday Machine. Have it chewing on some planets in the far reaches of the federation.

 

[HamTard]

Someone more interesting, with more depth please. Ideally not a Romulan or Klingon.

 

[blockaderunner]

Frankly, with one of the founding races of the Federation put on the endangered list, Our Heroes have a lot more to deal with than some moustache twirler spouting empty threats. My guess is the Enterprise won't have a lot of time to chart nebulae and map stars. My guess will be the Klingons. But a new adversary. A no bullshit, non Trekian adversary. What I loved about Nero was just that. No Shakespeare quotes or conquest for the glory of the Romulan Star Empire. He was pissed. And wanted everyone concerned to feel the same pain he felt. I hope the Klingon or Klingons in the next movie's motivations are as grounded and real as Nero's were.

 

[Norrin Radd]

There seems to be a lot of support for Gary Mitchell in this thread.

Damn...forgot to include the Giant Amoeba.

 

[Bad Atom]

How about "None"?

 

[CommanderRaytas]

It should be Robau. That way, the villain is already badass and can't be lame.

The fact that he got spiked by Nero tells me all I need to know.

Nero was cool because he wasn't your typical evil overlord but just some not too eloquent bloke who was really, really angry and wanted to hurt people. He was a person and not a stereotype. That's why I don't like Khan very much, or that Chang guy from TUC. In the lines of what McCoy said, I'd pay them to shut up. Some of Khan's lines were downright ridiculous. His monologues were boring to hell.

We need more interesting, different approaches to antagonists. Because I felt that's what Nero was, rather than a villain per se.

 

[Overbound]

I'd like to see the aliens from Talos IV but the chances of that happening are slim to none. They would be hard to use for an action film and I think we can expect that next Star Trek to be mainly an action flick as is this one not that it didn't have meaning or story.

 

[TheMadCloner]

As the Enterprise prepares to test the Genesis device in orbit around a desolate planet, they encounter a small pod containing a mentally unstable, bipolar remnant of the Eugenics War (Khan, played by Johnny Depp). Khan is having an internal struggle trying to control the murderous and malevolent emotions resulting from his incomplete genetic engineering.

Kirk befriends Khan throughout the movie as he sees elements of Khan in himself (no real father, misunderstood). Certain personnel in Starfleet place pressure on the Enterprise to get the test underway. Khan appears to have a psychotic break and steals the Genesis Device and beams down onto the planet, killing Kirk's fiance aboard the Enterprise in the process. A frenetic cat-and-mouse chase ensues as Kirk personally chases down Khan in one of the planet's labrynthic cave networks. Khan's genetically superior half seems to gain the upper hand on him, giving him the upper edge in the chase and setting traps that nearly kill Kirk until they finally meet. A vicious physical battle follows in which Kirk, out for revenge, strangles Khan to the point of death. Khan manages to fight Kirk off and escape, with Kirk in pursuit.

Meanwhile, on the Enterprise, Spock discovers why Starfleet has been placing so much pressure on them to begin the test. In one of the planet's many underground caves, a secret dumping point exists for the genetically altered descendants of the Eugenics Wars.

Kirk, notified by Spock, realizes that violence is not the solution in this situation and tries to get through to Khan. The better side of Khan manages to break through for an instant, allowing Kirk to catch up, but not before the Genesis device is activated from a remote source. Kirk confesses to Khan that Khan killed his fiance. Spock realizes that Starfleet is using the Enterprise as a relay point to control the Genesis device and that the only way to stop the device from being used in this murderous capacity is to place the Genesis device on the Enterprise, travel away to an empty part of space, and then destroy the Enterprise. With precious few minutes remaining, Spock sets the ship for autopilot and sends a shuttle to bring the Genesis device onboard. Khan, filled with guilt, incapacitates Kirk at the shuttle site after everyone has taken refuge, boards the shuttle and maroons himself onboard the Enterprise with the Genesis device. With his last breath, he apologizes to Kirk on the empty bridge as the Enterprise self-destructs, destroying the Genesis device with it.

The movie ends with Kirk realizing that one of the descendants on the planet is Khan's son. Kirk adopts him as his own. Spock faces a court martial from Starfleet as the crew realize this conspiracy runs deeper than initially thought.

OK, that's pretty fanboyish.

 

[erebus]

I think Old Spock would make a great villain. He could try to take over the galaxy with transphasic torpedoes and ablative armor.

Yes i just had this idea but you beat me to it.

It sure would be neat and ironic (and hopefully Mr Nimoy would be ok and well enough to do it).

I just had a debate about SpockPrime informing the federation of future events (i think he shouldn't because of the prime directive).

We could have a story where he's convinced he's right about changing the timeline but the circumstances in the new universe are different enough to make him very wrong and a conflict ensues.

Or another idea would be that he gets kidnapped by a desperate bunch who want to know the future and it turns out it was staged and they are part of his plan to change events.

I just remember this old episode of Columbo where Mr Nimoy was a really really nasty villian, utterly convincing (i think he was a doctor).

 

[Chess Piece Face]

Someone new, or Kor, or the Gorn.

NEVER KHAN. Can't beat it, it would be like trying to remake Indiana Jones or Back to the Future or Star Wars IV. Don't try it.

 

[Balrog]

Talosians. I want to see Kirk, Pike and co. take those big ass-headed bastards on!