It is indeed intriguing. Sometimes hilarious.
Picard's atheism?
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McCoy strikes me as an 'at heart' Christian. He doesn't look at the Bible as a literal text (and, indeed, couldn't when you think about it), but he accepts it as a guide for dealing with the human condition - the core of his faith. So it's important to him, and his oft-quoting of religious tropes is pretty strong evident of that.
Uhura is definately a Christian, but what type remains open to debate.
Kirk is explicitly a Christian, but again, what type is open to question. He's definately not the religious sort in personality, but he does believe.
Spock regards Jesus as an important historical figure. It's intriguing to think about what his faith may be. It surprises me that Vulcan's religions haven't been fleshed out a bit more, though...
I would find ironic humor in Chekov being Eastern Orthodox, but we've never really seen any indication that he had a particular religious bent.
Uhura is definately a Christian, but what type remains open to debate.
Kirk is explicitly a Christian, but again, what type is open to question. He's definately not the religious sort in personality, but he does believe.
Spock regards Jesus as an important historical figure. It's intriguing to think about what his faith may be. It surprises me that Vulcan's religions haven't been fleshed out a bit more, though...
I would find ironic humor in Chekov being Eastern Orthodox, but we've never really seen any indication that he had a particular religious bent.
Me too, very much so! And I wish that people on the other boards I go to could hold a discussion of religion as civilly and intelligently. Really, the fact that this hasn't dissolved into a shouting match speaks volumes to me. Which is sort of sad, that all I've come to expect from religious debates is stupid people yelling at each other, but it's nice to know there are still people who can discuss this way.
Figures they'd be Trek fans.
OT, kinda.
Its from the thread that was closed.
Someone made reference to Archer, ENT therefore, and the sphere builders.
Something about Archer's disdain the sphere builders... and their religious beliefs?
Weren't the sphere builders the Xindi? No one was worshiping them, were they? Or were they worshiping those weird future aliens or whatever they were?
I must be misremembering something here... its been so long since I watched that series though... is what that conversation about even about the Xindi?
Its from the thread that was closed.
Someone made reference to Archer, ENT therefore, and the sphere builders.
Something about Archer's disdain the sphere builders... and their religious beliefs?
Weren't the sphere builders the Xindi? No one was worshiping them, were they? Or were they worshiping those weird future aliens or whatever they were?
I must be misremembering something here... its been so long since I watched that series though... is what that conversation about even about the Xindi?
Anyone quoted Picard from Destiny?
"I think that we're all echoes of a greater consciousness," he said. "Cells of awareness in a scheme we can't understand. At least, not yet."
"I think that we're all echoes of a greater consciousness," he said. "Cells of awareness in a scheme we can't understand. At least, not yet."
Kirk and Picard AGREE with ME. hahahaha
OK I have not read this whole thread...
But I know I've heard Kirk refer to God in several episodes....
So that means we're stuck with oppresive religion for millenia to come (since we all know Star Trek was REAL!)
^Not exactly. Belief in God or a Supreme Being does not require that a person be part of an organized religion, and as you mention, you can be a believer and still dislike organized religion. But if you believe in God, you are, by definition, religious in some way, shape or form. Here's the primary (first) definition of religion from Dictionary.com -- it goes along with other dictionaries, too: "(A) set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs."
By the way, about religion in Trek? All any of us can do is guess. I know what GR said, but no matter what he said, the writers were really careful to keep it as vague as possible, and clearly they did it on purpose.
By the way, about religion in Trek? All any of us can do is guess. I know what GR said, but no matter what he said, the writers were really careful to keep it as vague as possible, and clearly they did it on purpose.
The people I know don't follow any of that crap, they just think there is a god. They don't have any rituals, they have never expressed knowledge about a god and they don't claim to know about a purpose for life. They just look at the universe and the impossibility of everything, and from that they discern that there must be some intelligence behind life and perhaps the universe as a whole.
They believe in god, but they are not religious.
^I think you are reading more into the definition than is actually there. But maybe I'm reading less. In any case, I wasn't talking about specific people you know -- how could I? All I was trying to say was that "not believing in organized religion" doesn't always equal "not religious." Two different things. "Religious" can mean nothing more nor less than "spiritual."
True, but Kirk actually says he worships God, explicitly. It's an interesting comment, since Spock and McCoy, in their own way, far more often show aspects of their own faiths (though Spock's is never really explained beyond the need of plot.)
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