Spoilers Picard Prequel "Children of Mars"

[Noname Given]

Oh I misread your post, I thought you meant it had changed between the Hologram at the start of Season 2 and it's appearance near the end.

It may not have within the show itself - but dased on the shot they had in the preview:
https://static2.srcdn.com/wordpress...r-Trek-Discovery-Season-2-Klingon-Cruiser.jpg
It's really hard to make out the Klingon nacelle changes (I honestly really still can't tell if they are there) - and I was also hoping it would have a white coloring like the original TOS physical D-7 model.

But in all honesty - WRT TOS Remastered, I personally hate what they did with that CGI model. The Klingon ships were never grey in the original show; plus the mayerial and mesh they used looks terrible in comparison to the 1068-69 physical models. YMMV of course.

 

[Tim Thomason]

My wife was wondering if Control figures into the plot somehow?

Probably not. But it's an interesting cultural artefact that evil AI stories are taking over the mainstream.

 

[Galaxy]

Probably not. But it's an interesting cultural artefact that evil AI stories are taking over the mainstream.

They even get Elon Musk tweeting.

 

[Phoenix219]

None of the aesthetics matter anyways. They can change anything they want from TNG. We have no idea what TNG actually looked like anymore, post-FC, post-ENT, post TCW, post Discovery Season 2. we see how the timeline in the 23rd century has been altered. We will see what the end of the 24th looks like. We no longer have any idea what the movie era or TNG era looks like. The slate has been wiped clean, and what is currently in place leads through Picard into the DSC SO3 future, not the traditional future. We are in a Days of Future Past type situation at this point.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

we see how the timeline in the 23rd century has been altered.

No timeline has been altered. This isn't the Kelvinverse.

 

[Noname Given]

No timeline has been altered. This isn't the Kelvinverse.

As shown in "Enterprise" (via the episode: "Regeneration") the timeline was altered by Picard and Co. in the TNG feature film "ST: First Contact".

 

[fireproof78]

I thought that was Coffee Christ - a sweet Messiah snack!

You're thinking of Christ Chex-start your day the holy way.

 

[Yistaan]

As shown in "Enterprise" (via the episode: "Regeneration") the timeline was altered by Picard and Co. in the TNG feature film "ST: First Contact".

Even if this were true, it seems strangely and unbelievably specific that it would only affect design aesthetics and not anything else...

 

[Noname Given]

Even if this were true, it seems strangely and unbelievably specific that it would only affect design aesthetics and not anything else... (i.e. change the look of Pike's wheelchair but not actually improve on its functionality)

Well...we NEVER heard of Spock having a sister in TOS; and we never heard Captain Phillipa Georgiou ever mentioned in TOS before either...

 

[Nenya]

As shown in "Enterprise" (via the episode: "Regeneration") the timeline was altered by Picard and Co. in the TNG feature film "ST: First Contact".

Nope. That was always supposed to happen.

 

[Greg Cox]

Well...we NEVER heard of Spock having a sister in TOS; and we never heard Captain Phillipa Georgiou ever mentioned in TOS before either...

Mind you, Spock never mentioned his brother, his fiancee, or his father until he had to. And never heard of any other Starfleet captain until they guest-starred in an ep.

STAR TREK has always been a work-in-progress, making stuff up as it goes along.

 

[Yistaan]

I think the other way around is stranger--that there's no mention of Sybok at all in Discovery...

 

[Phoenix219]

I think the other way around is stranger--that there's no mention of Sybok at all in Discovery...

Especially during a storyline that would have been perfect for his inclusion.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I think the other way around is stranger--that there's no mention of Sybok at all in Discovery...

He was pretty much "excommunicated" from the family and Vulcan. So not all that strange.

 

[Phoenix219]

Nope. That was always supposed to happen.

I don't believe in predestination or time loops. All it proves is a terribly corrupted timeline where the first iteration/cause is no longer recognizable.

 

[BillJ]

STAR TREK has always been a work-in-progress, making stuff up as it goes along.

Some being better than others, with Michael Burnham being in the other category.

 

[BillJ]

None of the aesthetics matter anyways. They can change anything they want from TNG. We have no idea what TNG actually looked like anymore, post-FC, post-ENT, post TCW, post Discovery Season 2. we see how the timeline in the 23rd century has been altered. We will see what the end of the 24th looks like. We no longer have any idea what the movie era or TNG era looks like. The slate has been wiped clean, and what is currently in place leads through Picard into the DSC SO3 future, not the traditional future. We are in a Days of Future Past type situation at this point.

We’ve had the multiverse for a while now, folks might as well embrace it.

 

[JD]

They used a very distinct looking ship that was used as a Disco era ship on this very same season of Short Treks. It is pretty absurd if they assumed that people wouldn't notice and make that connection. You really don't need to be a starship wonk to notice it, you merely need to have some basic shape recognition skills. I really don't understand how people who do not see these things can even follow Star Trek. Do you get confused in the Original films because you cannot tell Enterprise and Excelsior apart?

I've been a Trek fan my whole life, pay attention to the starship designs, and I still didn't notice that they were Disco ships. I'm one of those fans who obsessively studies every detail of the ships, but I can tell the difference between Constitution, Excaliber, Ambassador, Galaxy, Crossfield, and a Walker class. The shot in Children of Mars was so quick, that I never really got a good enough look to identify them beyond Stafleet ship. I will admit that I'm still not that familiar with the Disco ships beyond the Walker and Crossfield classes.

 

[cooleddie74]

Spock doesn't even mention Sybok to Kirk until 22 years after they begin serving together on the Enterprise, and that's only because he sort of has to.

 

[Greg Cox]

Spock doesn't even mention Sybok to Kirk until 22 years after they begin serving together on the Enterprise, and that's only because he sort of has to.

And he didn't mention his Klingon peace initiative to Kirk until it was too late to back out, and, a generation later, he didn't tell Starfleet about his top-secret Vulcan-Romulan "Unification" initiative.

Spock has always played his cards close to his chest.