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[DarthTimon]

Ultimately, it sounds like Stewart was aware, prior to the finale being written, of the intent to 'kill' Picard. How soon he became aware is a different question, but he was aware, and didn't raise objections. He could still have said no, prior to the writing being finished. He didn't.

 

[Alexander Corrino]

Ultimately, it sounds like Stewart was aware, prior to the finale being written, of the intent to 'kill' Picard. How soon he became aware is a different question, but he was aware, and didn't raise objections. He could still have said no, prior to the writing being finished. He didn't.

They didn’t ask him about it, they just wrote it in - if he was as involved as these people claimed (until now that this narrative is no longer convenient) he’d have been in on it the whole time during the writing process. Of course he could probably have raised hell and said “no way guys” after reading the script, but he also said he found the conclusion appropriate and he’s eager to explore what it means for Jean-Luc (we always have to remember that he does NOT want to do what TNG did before, he wants new things to do and act, he does not want to make TNG 2.0, and exploring what all this means to Jean-Luc now falls exactly into that “new” category - I think those who expect for Jean-Luc to become his TNG self again will be up for another “disappointment”, if anything, he will probably change even more now), so... he’s fine with it. And not “unhappy about something he did not sign off on” as the “sources” now claim.

 

[Noname Given]

What would you expect him to say though? He's not going to discuss disagreements with the writers in public while doing show publicity interviews. We do know from Patrick himself that the whole death/reborn in android business was a shock to him: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/l...down-shocking-star-trek-picard-finale-1286604

"I only learned of [Picard's death] way into [shooting] the first season," the Star Trek: Picard star tells The Hollywood Reporter in an exclusive post-mortem interview about "Arcadia Ego" and the show's freshman season overall. "Because that final episode wasn't written yet, and I didn't know it was part of the storyline."

Stewart half-joked that, while the shoot was leading up to the finale, "there was a moment where I thought: ‘Oh, lord, am I being killed off? What did I do wrong?'"

We also know that Patrick wanted something like his movie Logan to be the inspiration for Picard. Getting put into a resilient new android body is almost the complete opposite of anything that happened to Patrick's character in Logan, to put it mildly.

At this point, if this rumor is true, I say retcon everything after Picard losing consciousness to be a dream sequence, Picard gets cured of irumodic syndrome somehow and revives in his human body, and the golem is used to cast a new actor to play Data.

Considering they TOOK HIM INTO THE WRITER'S ROOM tom get him to sign on (Recall that he DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT WITH THE ORIGINAL PITCH they gave him.) And no, I don't think he'd have ANY issues calling out the producers/writers if they did something he really didn't like/want to do.

He doesn't need the work. The man is wealthy and has his pick of projects; plus he's 80 years old; so yeah, I doubt he's going to stick with/do anything he doesn't care for at this point - and he's not going to sugar coat anything because at this stage in his life, he doesn't need to.

Yes, he WAS surprised when he read the actual script but if you watch every interview afterward, he WAS EXCITED about the avenues it opened up for him WRT how he could play Jean-Luc Picard going forward. He DOESN'T want to rehash the TNG version of Picard he (and the character) has moved on.

 

[Yistaan]

Considering they TOOK HIM INTO THE WRITER'S ROOM tom get him to sign on (Recall that he DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT WITH THE ORIGINAL PITCH they gave him.)

There's absolutely no need to write in all caps, the online equivalent of shouting.

 

[Noname Given]

There's absolutely no need to write in all caps, the online equivalent of shouting.

Yes, I'm well aware of that. I stand by what I posted AS posted, Thanks.

 

[KennyB]

There's absolutely no need to write in all caps, the online equivalent of shouting.

Caps won't hurt you.........however arguing over specifics of a bullshit, clickbait article is pointless. No source, no facts...........so everyone take a step back and relax.

 

[RAMA]

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Rumor is that Patrick Stewart is unhappy with season 2:

“Sir Patrick does not like the idea of being dead and now a ‘golem’- this is one aspect of the series he did not sign off on. The writers are [now] scrambling to reconfigure the season into something with coherency, which is not something the show has a lot of. ”
https://wegotthiscovered.com/tv/patrick-stewart-rumored-unhappy-returning-star-trek-picard-season-2/

What do people think? Is it plausible, true, or total BS?

I think the source is very questionable so I would be very skeptical. But I think it is plausible that Stewart might be a bit upset with that direction to his character.

 

[AlanC9]

Can someone remind me why we're even paying attention to that article?

 

[Yistaan]

Can someone remind me why we're even paying attention to that article?

Because this is the rumors thread. It literally says so in the thread title. If someone doesn't want to discuss rumors, then I assume they would take part in the many other threads that don't have rumors in the title.

 

[fireproof78]

Can someone remind me why we're even paying attention to that article?

Because gossip spreads like fire.

 

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[KennyB]

Because this is the rumors thread. It literally says so in the thread title. If someone doesn't want to discuss rumors, then I assume they would take part in the many other threads that don't have rumors in the title.

FWIW the name of the thread was CHANGED to that after it was posted.......

 

[Yistaan]

FWIW the name of the thread was CHANGED to that after it was posted.......

I don't see how that changes the validity of my response. At the time the question I answered was posted, this article (as well as the question itself) was in the rumors thread.

 

[KennyB]

I don't see how that changes the validity of my response. At the time the question I answered was posted, this article (as well as the question itself) was in the rumors thread.

Everything is not confrontational. Chill. I did not challenge you.

 

[KennyB]

I don't see how that changes the validity of my response. At the time the question I answered was posted, this article (as well as the question itself) was in the rumors thread.

I can take you by the hand and lead you back to when the thread was started, it was held up as a valid rumour about season 2. The name of the thread was then changed to become a catch all "rumor and 3rd party source" thread after most people pointed out the fact that We Got THis Covered is a clickbait site. I wasn't sure if you were aware, that's why people are asking why we are even paying attention to it. Your bowing up to any comment even when someone is just trying to explain things to you is rude and unwarranted.

 

[Yistaan]

Your bowing up to any comment even when someone is just trying to explain things to you is rude and unwarranted.

I'm sorry what? Did I say something wrong? Did I insult you (a mod) or any other poster? I'm honestly trying to look at exactly what I posted below and I really don't think I said anything bad about you or anyone in it...

I don't want a fight but I would really like to have it explained what I did wrong so I can look out for it. Or what rule I broke.

I don't see how that changes the validity of my response. At the time the question I answered was posted, this article (as well as the question itself) was in the rumors thread.

EDIT: I am reviewing https://www.trekbbs.com/rules/ and trying to figure out which one of the rules the above post broke.

I'm honestly trying to understand how another poster writing in all caps is ok, per your own words on this thread

Caps won't hurt you

but a post I wrote that said nothing bad about anyone isn't. Please let me know what line in https://www.trekbbs.com/rules/ I broke so I can ensure that it doesn't happen in the future, but I can't be certain if I don't know what line at https://www.trekbbs.com/rules/ I messed up on.

That someone posts in all caps in a response for seemingly no reason other than intimidation seems to be ok, but someone who writes a post that disagrees with another in a way that is not personal at all, says nothing bad about anyone, and as far as I can tell breaks no rules is called "rude and unwarranted". This feels arbitrary and not based on any rules or indeed the actual content of posts, especially when you compare them side by side.

 

[KennyB]

You literally seem to take everything as a personal attack. Even when someone is trying to help you it seems.

 

[Ronin'sCreamyCandle]

https://blog.trekcore.com/2023/04/star-trek-picard-review-surrender/

A truly odd review that goes off the rails when the reviewer attacks Terry Matalas and the showrunners for attacking Michael Chabon and the season 1 writers. It's bizarre and almost paranoid. Does it have basis in reality? A snip from the review on TrekCore:

Anyway, the attack on “Nepenthe” needs to be called out for what it is: the current showrunner and writing team’s thinly-veiled tolerance of Picard’s first two seasons. Obviously, Season 1 and 2 each received a mixed reception for being something very different from TNG, but here the script is taking direct aim at series co-creator Michael Chabon, a long-haired, bearded, Berkeley-residing novelist of some acclaim. (“It’s like it was designed by a cabal of retro prairie hipsters.”)

What do you all think?

 

[Agony_Boothb]

https://blog.trekcore.com/2023/04/star-trek-picard-review-surrender/

A truly odd review that goes off the rails when the reviewer attacks Terry Matalas and the showrunners for attacking Michael Chabon and the season 1 writers. It's bizarre and almost paranoid. Does it have basis in reality? A snip from the review on TrekCore:



What do you all think?

I definitely didn't read Troi and Riker hating Nepenthe in that way at all. Nepenthe is representative of a very dark time in the lives of Riker and Troi. they only went there so Thad could potentially be healed or at least live longer than he could have on a Starship due the Planet's qualities. Riker and Troi staying on Nepenthe represented their inability to move on from Thad's death. Realising that they both hated the place was symbolic of both Riker and Troi finally moving forward from their individual grief together and also reaffiriming their marriage.

How the reviewer could take it as some slight towards Michael Chabon is beyond me.

 

[iTako]

If anyone from the production team is reading this and wants to deny the above is what happened, then you can instead apologize for not having a better read on exactly how a line like that would be perceived in the context in which it was presented. Bad form all the way around.

“If anyone involved in the thing I’m angry about wants to tell me I’m wrong, they should just instead apologize for something I made up.”

This dude is silly.