No, the Worf joke must be explained. All unseen events alluded to must be seen. Feed me, for I cannot go on with this hole in my soul.
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No, the Worf joke must be explained. All unseen events alluded to must be seen. Feed me, for I cannot go on with this hole in my soul.
I don't live in USA, so I don't know about the strike. But I'm curious, why the writers strike seems happen a lot.
I don’t think they’ll be another theatrical release Trek feature film for the rest of this decade, if basically ever. Trek’s too niche, and it’s become a purely nostalgia franchise. It’s not like during its ‘90s heyday in terms of mainstream recognition and ubiquity, and its buried away on streaming services (I work with people who watched TNG et al back when and haven’t heard of the Picard series, let alone seen season 3, my parents haven’t heard of or seen it, despite watching TNG religiously when it was on BBC2, etc, etc). The most viable way of making a Trek movie franchise, blockbuster presentation and a reboot to get newcomers aboard didn’t work financially or (LBH) creatively speaking. We’ll get some straight-to-steaming ‘movies’ which will basically be extended one-off episodes, and that’ll be it for the foreseeable, perhaps forever.
more like a proof that a lot of bad luck, questionable decisions and corporate meddling can ruin a movie.
Just to go slightly off topic, what’s your opinion of TUC? (I think it’s mostly dorky and cheesy, and is startlingly unsubtle about what it’s analogy for, but I still have a soft spot for it.)
STV: TFF was a precursor to the TNG films – a glorified “television movie” made with too much creative control given away to a cast member at the detriment of quality storytelling.
But it had only been 20 at that point.
The last writers' strike was sixteen years ago I think, the one before that in the 90s
I would say it is not the Kelvin Universe, Since Paramount would be the biggest problem since they have new season of Yellow Stone coming out, and Creating another 3 Season Knock off so they are probably having to decide which of the new seires are good and bad. Kelvin Universe is coming out next year so really the Paramount network should be able to complete a new TNG series with the Enterprise G
Do you know something the rest of us don't?
I liked it, but it was clearly made because:
1. TFF sucked so bad that there was no way the idea of a continuous stream of TOS films after 1989 was viable (Remember, at the time the idea was to have a steady two-year stream of films with the TOS cast while TNG was on the air.)
2. After they realized this, TUC was essentially the movie that TFF should have been - a final sendoff for the original cast.
And it was painfully obvious that 20 years later this cast was past their prime.
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When I first Heard about Star Trek 4 they had it set for either 2023 or 2024, So since they can't get it this year, They will move it back...But this is just my best guess
Yeah, I wouldn't hold my breath on Kelvin 4 happening next year.
Yea I know, But still gotta hope
If a Kelvin Film was announced today, it would take them at least a few months to design and build sets. Then about four-to-six months to shoot. Then a year to edit. And the script would have to already be finished before the Writer's Strike began. If not, and they have to finish it after, it's a rush-job. If they announce later in the year, that means less shoot time and less editing and less writing to get it out by the end of 2024.
Basically, Star Trek 4 would be a shitty rush-job.
"But Star Trek VI came together in under two years!" That was a different time. The movies weren't as effects-heavy back then, there were fewer shots, the motion wasn't constant, and the editing wasn't all chop-chop-chop fast-fast-fast.
They would have to be prepared to make a movie that's very different from what they've done before to make it work. They'd have to basically make a JJ Abrams movie that's not really a JJ Abrams movie.
Or they'd have to shoot it the way DSC, PIC, and SNW are shot. Which they can do, but then what's the point? Why go to the theater to watch something we're already getting on TV? For all intents and purposes, it would be something that looks similar to SNW while having DSC/PIC-level stakes.
Basically, Star Trek 4 would be a shitty rush-job.
"But Star Trek VI came together in under two years!" That was a different time. The movies weren't as effects-heavy back then, there were fewer shots, the motion wasn't constant, and the editing wasn't all chop-chop-chop fast-fast-fast.
They would have to be prepared to make a movie that's very different from what they've done before to make it work. They'd have to basically make a JJ Abrams movie that's not really a JJ Abrams movie.
Or they'd have to shoot it the way DSC, PIC, and SNW are shot. Which they can do, but then what's the point? Why go to the theater to watch something we're already getting on TV? For all intents and purposes, it would be something that looks similar to SNW while having DSC/PIC-level stakes.
If a new Kelvin universe (or PeggTrek, as I call it) film came our next week, there would be a bigger gap between it and Beyond than there was between Nemesis and Star Trek 2009. I just don’t think they’ll be a fourth one in that series with the same cast. So outside the realms of possibility despite what Paramount might’ve claimed a year or two ago.
If they can live with the idea that eventually it all has to lead into TMP, they could let SNW run its course, have Kirk take command at the very end of that series... then transition to the Big Screen with Kirk's Enterprise. To the general audience, it looks like a reboot, and it's with the characters they're most familiar with.
But they shot themselves in the foot with Paul Wesley. Unless he seriously hid some acting chops in his one SNW appearance so far, he doesn't seem like a Leading Actor to me. It looks to me like they deliberately cast someone who wouldn't overshadow Anson Mount.
But they shot themselves in the foot with Paul Wesley. Unless he seriously hid some acting chops in his one SNW appearance so far, he doesn't seem like a Leading Actor to me. It looks to me like they deliberately cast someone who wouldn't overshadow Anson Mount.
Hah, was about to add that (IMO) SNW existing means as far as TPTB are concerned, the Kelvin films have run their course.
Agree about the SNW-Kirk actor. Pales in comparison to the under-rated Chris Pine, who for my money is one of the stronger Kelvin actors tied with Karl Urban.
Edit: actually, being honest, I think that a fair amount of the Kelvin crew were completely miscast (Simon Pegg as Scotty doesn’t make sense unless they were originally going for an official licensed Trek parody at some point in ore-production).
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There is just no way that a fourth Kelvin movie is coming out before late 2025, if ever (my bet is on never). There just isn’t the time to write it, close the contracts, build the sets, shoot it, edit it and market it.
And at this point I wonder how much that specific cast would be a draw compared to yet another reboot.
Agreed that I don’t see a Wesley Kirk movie, he really didn’t do it for me and for many.
And at this point I wonder how much that specific cast would be a draw compared to yet another reboot.
Agreed that I don’t see a Wesley Kirk movie, he really didn’t do it for me and for many.
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