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Spoilers Picard Autobiography by David Goodman - Discussion and Review Thread

Please rate the Picard Autobiography by David Goodman

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How is the Star Trek Adventures RPG different from the Pocket Book continuity?

You ask that as if it were an exception that needed to be explained, but it's the rule. Different companies' tie-ins have their own paths to follow, their own different creators with their own ideas and priorities, so it's only in rare cases that they do share continuity. In the case of an RPG, it has its own storyline that it develops to serve the game, and it needs to be tailored to the needs of gameplay (which are different from the needs of prose fiction) and to be open-ended enough to let the game develop as it will. So naturally it's not going to shackle itself to a book continuity. It may cherrypick certain ideas from the novels -- especially since a couple of Pocket authors like Dayton Ward are contributing to the game -- but it will follow its own path and its own needs.
 
I find it a bit strange this is a surprise to so many people as Star Trek books didn't used to have any continuity with each other at all. It's also a genre which includes alternate realities.

There's the "canonverse", "the bookverse", "the MMORPG verse", and so on.
 
You ask that as if it were an exception that needed to be explained, but it's the rule. Different companies' tie-ins have their own paths to follow, their own different creators with their own ideas and priorities, so it's only in rare cases that they do share continuity. In the case of an RPG, it has its own storyline that it develops to serve the game, and it needs to be tailored to the needs of gameplay (which are different from the needs of prose fiction) and to be open-ended enough to let the game develop as it will. So naturally it's not going to shackle itself to a book continuity. It may cherrypick certain ideas from the novels -- especially since a couple of Pocket authors like Dayton Ward are contributing to the game -- but it will follow its own path and its own needs.

I think Extrocomp was asking about what specific divergences it had, out of curiosity. It didn't sound like a challenge to the idea that it was a different continuity.
 
About halfway through the book. I confess, I was really surprised by:

Spock's wedding. Is that supposed to be someone we know or not?
 
About halfway through the book. I confess, I was really surprised by:

Spock's wedding. Is that supposed to be someone we know or not?
In "Sarek" Picard said he first met Sarek at his son's wedding. Since Sybok was dead and we didn't hear about any others, it's generally assumed to be Spock's.
 
In "Sarek" Picard said he first met Sarek at his son's wedding. Since Sybok was dead and we didn't hear about any others, it's generally assumed to be Spock's.

That was something I had completely forgotten. Do we have an identified wife in the Novelverse?
 
I feel like there was a different woman in "Crucible," but I'm probably thinking of McCoy's romance subplot.
 
And it's definitely not Saavik in the Picard autobio, she's identified as human.
 
I'm a bit slow on the uptake but since the autobiography is obviously now out and being discussed in this thread, I'll change the title and give it a spoiler tag.
 
It wouldn't have been a problem if you had - usually we do have a new thread for the post-publication conversations, but since they're already happening in here, I figured I might as well just re-name this thread.
 
*SPOILERS AHEAD*

I'm pretty much the opposite of @Christopher in my view of how the Star Trek universe functions. I tend to take the view we're seeing the "interesting" bits of the universe while the rest of Starfleet, if not BORING (it's still space travel after all), isn't a Pulp serial of Flash Gordon-esque adventures. It's probably due to Peter David's New Frontier because I imprinted Admiral Jellico's incredulous reaction to Captain Calhoun's successes as well as contempt for Kirk's stories.

So, yes, Captain Kirk WAS the greatest Starfleet Captain who ever lived and probably ever will live. Still, I found the "most inspirational captain" a little weird to apply to Picard. I also felt Q's attempt to say Picard was "perfect" in the prologue out of character as I'd think he'd use a much more insulting but still respectful descriptor.

What did I think?

I really liked it but I think it does run into the fact with characters like Picard, weaving together everything tends to leave "ifs, ands, or buts" which sometimes feel like they're missing some polish. For example, Captain Picard was supposed to have a mentor-student role with Boothby the Gardener who helped polish off some of his rough spots. It turns out, at least according to this book that the too shared a few months detention where they barely spoke.

There's also a few places which felt a little rough like the fact, randomly, The Doomsday Machine (yes, that one) was used by the Klingons to try to destroy Romulus. This is something you can't really just gloss over. It also is sort of a serious issue with TNG's continuity where the Klingons are friends of the Federation, the Romulans are enemies, and the atrocities the Romulans did against the Klingons are wholly unjustified. Making them retaliation for an attempted genocide let's them off the hook and vilifies the Klingons. I have to say, when this book reaches print, the Sons of Kling have a good case for libel.

I also note Spock's wedding is something of a continuity porn explosion which opened more questions than it answered. While Spock was mentioned as to having gotten married in TNG (a blink or you'll miss it moment), we don't get to know who the bride is in the book by very deliberate means other than she appears to be non-Vulcan. Given the most likely spouse of Spock would be Saavik, this is a bit odd. Also, there's a "President Uhura" that seems like another reference thrown in--I'm guessing a son or daughter than the officer herself.

Overall, I think the book definitely felt like Picard and there were a lot of good moments spread throughout. The interweaving of continuity, with the aforementioned exceptions, was well done and I loved the description of the Picard Household when he was a boy. It was just the right amount of crustiness without the spilling over into abuse. We also get the author mentioning how strange it is to find an Earl Grey Tea and Shakespeare obsessed Frenchman. I also pitified from RL experiences when Picard has to deal with his dementia-ridden mother.

Still, I can't quite give this book five stars. Why? It's not because the novelverse is ignored or anything like that but it feels like the book gives a sort of "Picard is Picard throughout his life" treatment. Picard is a character we explicitly know goes through a dramatic change of personality due to TNG but he seems all too level headed throughout this book. Aside from the fact he's an incorrigible ladies man, there doesn't seem to be much difference between the Picard of later years and the Picard of his early career--which is a mistake. His biography should really have him lamenting himself a bit more I think.

Overall, I approve of this book but I think it's a little too close to the Autobiography of James T. Kirk. They both have a somber reflective look back on their Starfleet careers that feel a bit too similar.

8/10
 
Her full name is given as Nyota Uhura.

So the book makes her President of the Federation? Fascinating.

I also liked the attempt to explain the Hobus Disaster with SCIENCE!

Sadly, I disliked the idea to get rid of the Denubulons.

That seems a shame.
 
We also get the author mentioning how strange it is to find an Earl Grey Tea and Shakespeare obsessed Frenchman.

Why is that strange? I'm an American and I like both those things. It's stereotyping to assume that people from a given country are only allowed to like things from that country. Besides, England and France are next-door neighbors, 24th-century Europe is a more integrated society than it is today, and they have transporters that would make it effortless for Picard to have commuted to school in Nairobi or Seoul if he wanted, let alone London. The idea that there still has to be some impermeable barrier between Englishness and Frenchness is a failure of futurism.


Sadly, I disliked the idea to get rid of the Denubulons.

I'd assume it's the same one Goodman used in Federation: The First 150 Years. In developing Rise of the Federation, I thought about trying to "explain" the Denobulans' apparent rarity in the future, but it seemed unnecessary when I realized that ENT had already established them as a gregarious people who like to live close together in dense communities and share a single continent. So it followed that they would be stay-at-homes by natural inclination and only a small percentage would ever want to leave Denobula.
 
Why is that strange? I'm an American and I like both those things. It's stereotyping to assume that people from a given country are only allowed to like things from that country. Besides, England and France are next-door neighbors, 24th-century Europe is a more integrated society than it is today, and they have transporters that would make it effortless for Picard to have commuted to school in Nairobi or Seoul if he wanted, let alone London. The idea that there still has to be some impermeable barrier between Englishness and Frenchness is a failure of futurism.




I'd assume it's the same one Goodman used in Federation: The First 150 Years. In developing Rise of the Federation, I thought about trying to "explain" the Denobulans' apparent rarity in the future, but it seemed unnecessary when I realized that ENT had already established them as a gregarious people who like to live close together in dense communities and share a single continent. So it followed that they would be stay-at-homes by natural inclination and only a small percentage would ever want to leave Denobula.

That was my understanding too about the Denobulans and the First 150 Years book helped me along a bit. Though considering it only covered to c. 2311 means that things could've changed by the mid-late 2300's.
 
For example, Captain Picard was supposed to have a mentor-student role with Boothby the Gardener who helped polish off some of his rough spots. It turns out, at least according to this book that the too shared a few months detention where they barely spoke.
That more or less is an accurate recounting of events mentioned between the two of them in The First Duty.
There's also a few places which felt a little rough like the fact, randomly, The Doomsday Machine (yes, that one) was used by the Klingons to try to destroy Romulus. This is something you can't really just gloss over. It also is sort of a serious issue with TNG's continuity where the Klingons are friends of the Federation, the Romulans are enemies, and the atrocities the Romulans did against the Klingons are wholly unjustified. Making them retaliation for an attempted genocide let's them off the hook and vilifies the Klingons. I have to say, when this book reaches print, the Sons of Kling have a good case for libel.
I don't see the issue. It's mentioned later in the book the Klingon government said this was a rogue operation, maybe it really was? And regardless, despite coming to peace in TUC, we know it was a tumultuous peace which eventually deteriorated to the point where the Federation and the Klingons were on the cusp of war, and that it was only because of the Enterprise C's sacrifice defending Narendra III that helped solidify the peace between the Federation and Klingons we see in TNG.
I'd assume it's the same one Goodman used in Federation: The First 150 Years.
It builds off that, yes, but the autobiography makes things much more permanent.
 
Yeah,

While I think we see the "interesting" parts on the Star Trek universe, I certainly think it's weird to assume we need to explain why things aren't "on camera." The Federation is meant to be an alliance of at least a couple of dozen alien races and who knows how many immigrants like Nog (though I suppose that might not be accurate given he presumably has Federation citizenship due to Deep Space Nine or can immigrant).

Basically, it disappoints to think they removed a huge part of the ENT era when they could have been the 5th or 6th "founding" member of the Federation.

Also, while nothing keeps him from showing up later, it also "kills" Phlox.
 
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