Sounded like it. Which is fine, because plenty of Romulans have had American accents.
Spoilers Picard 1x1, "Remembrance"
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I thought he figured it out all a little too quickly. But this is Jean-Luc Picard. And besides, he obviously feels the loss of Data so acutely it's a story he'd want to believe. I wonder if the actual explanation is more complex.
I would just have all actors use their normal voices when playing aliens. All Earth accents are equally "wrong" for the aliens unless they grew up among humans. If anyone asks, just say that it's due to the universal translator. It doesnt render some hypothetical accent-less speech. It assigns known and familiar accented pronunciations to the translations.
It was a bit like Kirk in his cabin, chopping wood and making breakfast and just not feeling it. This is not where he belongs. He misses The Chair, and making a difference.
Well, if we go with the assumption Picard's dreams are foreshadowing plot points, I would take the five Queens at face value as a reference to the Borg Queen. We know the Romulans are running a "Reclamation Site" for liberated drones, which appears to be a cover for experimentation. We've also seen the bald Romulan in the SDCC trailer refer to "The End of All, the Destroyer" as "she," and a liberated Borg in the new post-episode trailer accuse someone of being "The Destroyer." I'm assuming they're both referring to Soji, so reading between the lines, I'm thinking the Romulans are building a new type of Borg and due to her unique, advanced construction, view Soji as the ideal queen.
What I enjoyed about this episode was the pace of the story - there was a narrative framework to outline the broad brush stroke version of the overall plot, but the details are being revealed carefully and slowly.
So much fun.
So much fun.
I still say that there is no way in Hell Data would ever let anybody get their hands on Lore.
Lore caused so much death and destruction during all the times we saw him active that Data would be absolutely sure he would never be used for experiments or activated again.
Probably to the extent that Data had Lore's head disposed of, or at the very least put it where nobody could ever find it.
The actress is Irish
Another interesting thing about the Trek universe in 2399, the generational role reversal. It’s the older guys pushing compassion toward all people regardless of borders and the younger generation nationalistic and xenophobic.
That reporter basically ok boomered “Romulans are people”.
That reporter basically ok boomered “Romulans are people”.
I'm still getting caught up on this thread, so forgive me if my comments are just old hat at this point, but I have a few observations.
Overall, it's probably Star Trek's best pilot, though that is an admittedly low bar. The producers have said they view the first three episodes as the "pilot," though, so I'll reserve final judgment. Still, with only "Caretaker" and "The Cage" even in contention, I expect it will overtake them.
That the episode began with call backs to both Nemesis, and especially "All Good Things," is both welcome, and telling. They very obviously wanted to say "we're back in the 24th century, and this is where we left off." And it works.
Stewart is in fine form, all things considered, and I love his Romulan house staff. I was seriously geeking out over Orla Brady. Such an Irish Romulan, it made me happy. I'm not so keen on Nerak at the end, he's so painfully British in (so far) all the wrong ways. And when he started walking down the corridor before we get real close, he looked like Ethan Peck as Scruffy Spock.
The first two acts, I'm completely invested in the story. From the hatchet-job of an interview to the rooftop action scene, I think it all works. Then act three is definitely weaker. It's mild, not catastrophic, but it's still significant. I would have much preferred the Daystrom scene to play out differently, without the full on info dump that we get, and maybe leave it at a lingering shot of the necklace. As it is, Dahj's death doesn't have any room to breathe. IMO, they should have pushed off introducing the twin concept -- and certainly the reveal -- by at least an episode, in order to give Picard, and us, time to process. So the third act, compared to the first two, feels both rushed and well, bland.
I wasn't expecting Maddox to be the macguffin, or even referenced at all, so that's welcome, but the whole sequence felt like telling, not showing. And now I'm thinking of Bruce Maddox as "Father of Cylons," because that's all these new skinjobs--er, I mean synths -- feel like so far. Positronic skinjob Cylons from BSG, with Dahj seriously channeling Matt Damon from the first Bourne Identity film.
That being said, I love the design of the warbirds, and all the possibilities the Reclamation Site base implies. Overall, it's an 8.5 out of 10 at least.
Overall, it's probably Star Trek's best pilot, though that is an admittedly low bar. The producers have said they view the first three episodes as the "pilot," though, so I'll reserve final judgment. Still, with only "Caretaker" and "The Cage" even in contention, I expect it will overtake them.
That the episode began with call backs to both Nemesis, and especially "All Good Things," is both welcome, and telling. They very obviously wanted to say "we're back in the 24th century, and this is where we left off." And it works.
Stewart is in fine form, all things considered, and I love his Romulan house staff. I was seriously geeking out over Orla Brady. Such an Irish Romulan, it made me happy. I'm not so keen on Nerak at the end, he's so painfully British in (so far) all the wrong ways. And when he started walking down the corridor before we get real close, he looked like Ethan Peck as Scruffy Spock.
The first two acts, I'm completely invested in the story. From the hatchet-job of an interview to the rooftop action scene, I think it all works. Then act three is definitely weaker. It's mild, not catastrophic, but it's still significant. I would have much preferred the Daystrom scene to play out differently, without the full on info dump that we get, and maybe leave it at a lingering shot of the necklace. As it is, Dahj's death doesn't have any room to breathe. IMO, they should have pushed off introducing the twin concept -- and certainly the reveal -- by at least an episode, in order to give Picard, and us, time to process. So the third act, compared to the first two, feels both rushed and well, bland.
I wasn't expecting Maddox to be the macguffin, or even referenced at all, so that's welcome, but the whole sequence felt like telling, not showing. And now I'm thinking of Bruce Maddox as "Father of Cylons," because that's all these new skinjobs--er, I mean synths -- feel like so far. Positronic skinjob Cylons from BSG, with Dahj seriously channeling Matt Damon from the first Bourne Identity film.
That being said, I love the design of the warbirds, and all the possibilities the Reclamation Site base implies. Overall, it's an 8.5 out of 10 at least.
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Think about what would have happened if Data was still alive when Dahj showed up. He would have finally been able to love her
just finished watching it there. Excellent episode. Picard is definately back. Very intriguing storyline too and it'll be interesting to see where they go from here with it. 10/10 for me.
Actually I still would say the alien invader death in TNG Season 1 "Conspiracy":
Is a bit more graphic/gruesome - but yeah the Dahj death disolve is up there too for Trek overall.
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Also, Varia's death in "The Most Toys" (TNG s3)was pretty harsh too
Think about what would have happened if Data was still alive when Dahj showed up. He would have finally been able to love her
Her twin is still alive though. I didn't know Romulan spit was this deadly.
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I guess my question would be: IF the Supernova that Spock was attempting to stop WAS the Star of the Romulan Home system - how in the hell would creating a massive Black hole in the vicinity of said star save Romulus. Not only would there be no star inn the system to continue to provide what the planet would need to remain habitable; there would be a massive black hole in it's place that I assume would eventually consume the planet regardless.
So yeah, the whole setup/explanation doesn't make sense unless the Super Nova was a different star; and SOMEHOW that Super Nova created some type of FTL/Subspace effect that Romulan/Federation scientists found would trigger other Stars (including the Romulan Home System star) in a few months/years/whatever; and that somehow, using Red Matter to create a Black Hole somewhere near (but still a 'safe' distance from the Romulan system) would stop that effect from occurring.
9/10 for me, why did they not deage Spiner's face as Data's, I found that a little off putting.