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Spoilers Picard 1x1, "Remembrance"

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Even more brutal simply due to the fact that Dahj was just a really nice young lady, with a lot going for her. Tragic that she would then be killed, especially in the way that she was.

So, I'm trying to figure out exactly what happened there. I was watching this on my tablet and headphones holding a somewhat fussy baby at about 4:30 in the morning. So, Dahj got some sort of acid spit on her by the Rommie and then blowed up by the exploding disrupter?

Honestly, I couldn’t disagree more. When I saw this last week, my overriding feeling in the first half was that I was watching the best Trek premiere episode of all time.

Indeed. I think you got so much you needed to know about Picard's journey since Nemesis in a not overt, over-the-top kind of a way. That interview was heart wrenching and the expression on Sir Patrick's face as he whispered what he did was some of the best acting in 54 years of Star Trek.
 
Pretty good, after a realllllllllly rough start. Seriously, I cringed at the writing in the first half of this. But they stuck the landing and got me intrigued for more.

Weird that they don't even mention Lal. Are they going to retcon her or will she come up later? And Data in the beginning looked like he was wearing a really bad costume version of his movie uniform. I guess they got rid of most of those props in the auction awhile ago. He looked better in the classic TNG uniform.

Similar to how I felt when I watched Trek 09, the new aesthetic married to some familiar elements like the LCARS and sound effects was pleasing. I don't need TNG all over again, but I don't want them to completely redesign it. Give me some reminders of it and that's enough.
Perhaps your "cringe factor" feeling is because it's obvious that Picard is completely out of his element on Earth and we as the viewers feel his discomfort and inner turmoil?

(in other words, Sir Patrick Stewart's superb acting is bringing out the desired effect on us)
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Sigh. 12.43am on 24th and still no episode up. I hope they’re not waiting for Western Australia to flip over to the 24th.
 
So, I'm trying to figure out exactly what happened there. I was watching this on my tablet and headphones holding a somewhat fussy baby at about 4:30 in the morning. So, Dahj got some sort of acid spit on her by the Rommie and then blowed up by the exploding disrupter?



Indeed. I think you got so much you needed to know about Picard's journey since Nemesis in a not overt, over-the-top kind of a way. That interview was heart wrenching and the expression on Sir Patrick's face as he whispered what he did was some of the best acting in 54 years of Star Trek.
Yep, the liquid was eating away at the weapon as well till its power source went nova.
 
Again, the only two scenes in this I didn't really like was Picard being interviewed by the nasty reporter and his whole discussion with Jurati. In both cases - particularly the latter - there was a lot of expository infodump style dialogue that really, really broke my immersion in the story. People shouldn't be telling Jean Luc things he knows already. Show, not tell, is how visual mediums are supposed to work.

Then again, expository infodumps have a long, long history in Star Trek.
 
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Indeed. I think you got so much you needed to know about Picard's journey since Nemesis in a not overt, over-the-top kind of a way. That interview was heart wrenching and the expression on Sir Patrick's face as he whispered what he did was some of the best acting in 54 years of Star Trek.
I see a lot of people around the web already upset about that scene but I thought it was wonderful, as you point out, the acting was incredible. I loved his facial expressions, emotion and conviction throughout- especially when she asks if he ever lost faith in Data.
 
So, I'm trying to figure out exactly what happened there. I was watching this on my tablet and headphones holding a somewhat fussy baby at about 4:30 in the morning. So, Dahj got some sort of acid spit on her by the Rommie and then blowed up by the exploding disrupter?

Yeah pretty much up. We see the Rommie spit green acid on Dhaj and the disrupter she was holding. The acid completely burns her and consumes her body and then the disrupter explodes.
 
Again, the only two scenes in this I didn't really like was Picard being interviewed by the nasty reporter and his whole discussion with Jurati. In both cases - particularly the latter - there was a lot of expository infodump style dialogue that really, really broke my immersion in the story. People shouldn't be telling Jean Luc things he knows already. Show, not tell, is how visual mediums are supposed to work.

Then again, expository infodumps have a long, long history in Star Trek.

That "nasty reporter" obviously knew she had a once in a lifetime chance here and took it to the extreme, by purposely leading the conversation to, what she knew he didn't want to talk about.

Again, it resulted in exactly the kind of response/feelings the writers of the show intended for us to feel.
 
A very, very solid start for this series. I was a little put off by the starting tone and pacing. Seemed slow. That didn’t last very long though and they set up a great premise and mystery for us. Very excited to see where this goes.
 
Again, the only two scenes in this I didn't really like was Picard being interviewed by the nasty reporter and his whole discussion with Jurati. In both cases - particularly the latter - there was a lot of expository infodump style dialogue that really, really broke my immersion in the story. People shouldn't be telling Jean Luc things he knows already. Show, not tell, is how visual mediums are supposed to work.

Then again, expository infodumps have a long, long history in Star Trek.

First, I loved the interview. It was an acting marathon for Stewart.
Second, re: the infodump, consider the audience who doesn't post regularly on a Star Trek board. That's who those scenes were for. Its cool that you don't like them, but they did serve a purpose.
 
That "nasty reporter" obviously knew she had a once in a lifetime chance here and took it to the extreme, by purposely leading the conversation to, what she knew he didn't want to talk about.

Again, it resulted in exactly the kind of response/feelings the writers of the show intended for us to feel.

Yeah, I rolled my eyes at that part, really was a weakness in the episode. More "the media is evil!!!" isn't something the world needs right now.
 
The attention paid to character development and relationships and the intelligence of the writing here is what really made this special. This is so much better than Discovery already.

I am a reporter myself so I appreciated the interview with the reporter as well as the civilian dress clothes. Once she got Capt. Picard in the chair on live TV with a history like that, she was never just going to ask him softball questions regardless of any prior agreements. I suppose it makes her look like she went too far But the scene gave Picard a chance to give that great speech and stalk away magnificently and the reporter’s career has been boosted.
 
Yeah, I rolled my eyes at that part, really was a weakness in the episode. More "the media is evil!!!" isn't something the world needs right now.
I think the point is exactly that, the Media can be subverted when EGO's become involved.

Which isn't anything new, it's just heightened now-a-days due to the nature of our current societal upheavals.
 
I liked that it was slow. It all went into character development. They did a great job of showing us were Picard is in his life right now ad what he is going through. I am still not certain if he as Irumotoic syndrome. I don't think they mentioned it or not.

Jason
 
Again, the only two scenes in this I didn't really like was Picard being interviewed by the nasty reporter

I don't think we are supposed to like the reporter. But it is not uncommon for some reporters to act like she did. We've seen plenty of interviews in real life just like that, where the reporter deviates from acceptable questions and tries to push the interview in a more sensational direction. It is a great scene in large part thanks to Patrick Stewart's stellar acting. His body language, his tone, everything is perfect. You can see his nervousness, his discomfort at talking about the difficult subject matter but also his repressed emotions and anger about the events. And the camera work and direction of the scene are top notch. It is a fantastic scene.
 
I liked both scenes a lot. He acts everyone into a corner, but the journalist was a good opponent. Her reaction when he walked out of her interview was a perfect mix of 'got him' and 'lost him'.
 
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