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Spoilers Picard 1x1, "Remembrance"

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Lord Garth said:
How do I put this? This is Star Trek as a prestige drama. Even if you don't like Discovery, I still recommend Picard as these two shows are very different from each other.

Let me get one question out of the way: which one do I like better so far Discovery or Picard? I like them both for very different reasons. But Picard is most definitely in a class of its own. Give it a chance. To certain others I want to say: I mean give it a serious chance, not one where you're watching but you already made up your mind. Actually give it a chance. If you do, you won't be disappointed.
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I loved it. I think Stewart might be up for a Emmy. It's truly is prestige Trek. The action was even pretty good and I relaly want to learn more about the synchs. Way better than Discovery. Discovery has some good characters but the writing is terrible and Burnham is a very bade lead. Stewart truly does have the gravitas to make this kind of dark, moody Trek work.


Jason
 
So they mention Maddox, a rather obscure character from TNG but forget about the biggest android guy. The immortal, Da Vinci from TOS.
 
Excellent.

- ten forward <3
- music is pretty wonderful and shot beautifully
- love the cyberpunk city look outside Dahj's window
- great opening credits & theme song
- show is exceeding my expectations so far
- getting a real cyberpunk feeling... picard's suit, reporter tech
- Feds initially approved Picard's Romulan rescue fleet
- 92,000 lives lost at Mars, still on fire, Synthetic life forms banned, Feds called off rescue mission
- am surprisingly not getting a lot of nostalgia... feels like a very different galaxy now
- can't speak highly enough about the music
- Picard's archive room is pretty awesome
- painting of Dahj real, called 'Daughter', done by Data
- Picard thinks Dahj is Data's daughter, an organic synthetic
- seems like Humanity split on it's feelings for Romulans and artificial life despised galaxy-wide
- galactic treaty ban on manufacturing synthetics, androids
- Bruce Maddox mention, disappeared after the ban, had some success since we last saw him
- "Romulan Reclamation Site", a borg cube
- looks like Romulans enhanced their ships and tech w Borg tech

Really enjoyed that. Didn't feel like TNG to me, felt like what happens after. Exceeded expectations.
 
Sorry if I'm repeating a point, but I just noticed on re-watch in the opening that they used the Discovery font for "Star Trek" instead of the classic font we've seen in promos. "Picard" is still the same.
 
I'm in and hooked. Would have skipped work and binged all episodes if they were available.

I am not really a fan of the theme or the intro. Kinda meh. Maybe the theme is less boring if I shut my eyes.
 
Sebastianus said:
So, the Hobus Supernova is no longer canon. Romulus was destroyed in 2389 when it's own star became a supernova.
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Which is what the movie always showed - its related FVX run had a continuous pan from Romulus through an asteroid field to a star that then blew. But that was quick, blurry, and part of a mind meld vision thing, so we didn't know for certain. Now we do.

Makes the 2009 movie more logical. Star blowing may have been predicted years in advance, but Spock still tried because he didn't know the exact day or hour of when it would blow. He guessed wrong. And he stopped the cataclysm right at its point of origin, where such things would have the best odds of looking halfway not-entirely-implausible.

The one consequence: the Nero backstory from the Countdown comic is finally dust, and there's zero chance he got to, say, "do tattoos of mourning", "upgrade with Borg tech", "get a privateer charter for avenging Romulus" or any of that other stuff. The timeline of the Romulan homestar blowing precludes it all.

(...But did we learn the name of the star that blew?)

Timo Saloniemi
 
It has been a while since I watched Star Trek 2009 - was it explicitly referred to as 'Hobus' on screen?
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Never, in any onscreen context. Spock called it "a star", and that was the only time in Trek pseudohistory it got mentioned at all.

Timo Saloniemi
 
starfleettanner said:
Should be a thing, ESPECIALLY given that they did it for Discovery.
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They just happened to air the first two episodes (on different platforms, by the way). It wasn’t a 2 hour episode. Different episode titles, different directors too, I think?

Shouldn’t be confused with a Broken Bow or Caretaker, etc.
 
The only question is how do we solve some of the things we saw through head canon. Like the word cool being slang again or the fact that it seems tv has made a comeback. The tie was also strange. But Picard is a old guy who likes old things so I could see him being into older day styles of clothes.


Jason
 
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