Spoilers Picard 1x1, "Remembrance"

[oberth]

In what way did it backfire for her? She went to a subject they had agreed beforehand was off the table, but instead of refusing to answer, Picard gave his reasons for leaving Starfleet, and she got that out of him. If anything Fed Net would probably give her a raise (although if in the 24th century, money still doesn't exist I don't know what form it would take. )

walk out- you need to 'win' one to not get sacked for it. she didn't 'win' thatone. - especially when it's a 'homestory' with a guy who never talked before.



... and please, no: 24th century - we don't know ... it's written for a 20202 audience.

 

[Alan Roi]

to what end? while there certainly are journalists who rather rudly misbehave (and she's one of them) those normaly have an agenda (could be their own careers, though). in my book it backfired on her. she needs to ask jj abrams to reboot her life

Was she there to do PR for Jean-Luc or be a journalist?

 

[Alan Roi]

walk out- you need to 'win' one to not get sacked for it. she didn't 'win' thatone. - especially when it's a 'homestory' with a guy who never talked before.



... and please, no: 24th century - we don't know ... it's written for a 20202 audience.

If she was in any danger of being sacked for her interview, it wouldn't have been broadcast.

 

[oberth]

Was she there to do PR for Jean-Luc or be a journalist?

none of the above - if you agree to 'stuff' you keep it, unless you are interviewing [fill in the villian of your choice]

If she was in any danger of being sacked for her interview, it wouldn't have been broadcast.

live rings a bell?

edit to add:

having the guy who refused to talk is a spoof in its own right

 

[Grendelsbayne]

I don't see any logical reason why the security concerns from the Mars attack would influence fleet assignments in a major way. You don't stop small groups of terrorists with massed fleets. Mars may have been an excuse not to help Romulus, but it wasn't a reason.

 

[oberth]

I don't see any logical reason why the security concerns from the Mars attack would influence fleet assignments in a major way. You don't stop small groups of terrorists with massed fleets. Mars may have been an excuse not to help Romulus, but it wasn't a reason.

yes and no

a large fleet deployment makes a second 'sneaking through' less likely - more eyes and ears

 

[Rahul]

I don't see any logical reason why the security concerns from the Mars attack would influence fleet assignments in a major way. You don't stop small groups of terrorists with massed fleets. Mars may have been an excuse not to help Romulus, but it wasn't a reason.

Utopia Planitia was Starfleets main ship construction site. And it probably took quite a while to built 10.000 starships there.

With it (and the fleet in building) being entirely destroyed, I can absolutely see why the Federation doesn't want to spent their other few shipyards entirely for building another fleet for the next year or whatever it takes, especially if the Federation is very much not capable of keeping their existing fleet in service without a major shipyard, and a new threat just having made a first strike.

For Picard it was a moral obligation. For Starfleet it was Realpolitik and resource management. I'm with Picard on this one, but I can see the rationality of the other side as well.

 

[Gonzo]

yes and no

a large fleet deployment makes a second 'sneaking through' less likely - more eyes and ears

There is probably a lot more to the event than Picard is aware of.

I suspect we will at the very least find who was really behind it all, the synths may end up just being patsies.

We have seen it time and time again in Scifi.

 

[oberth]

There is probably a lot more to the event than Picard is aware of.

I suspect we will at the very least find who was really behind it all, the synths may end up just being patsies.

We have seen it time and time again in Scifi.

i was commenting on what i've seen not on what might come

 

[Grendelsbayne]

Utopia Planitia was Starfleets main ship construction site. And it probably took quite a while to built 10.000 starships there.

With it (and the fleet in building) being entirely destroyed, I can absolutely see why the Federation doesn't want to spent their other few shipyards entirely for building another fleet for the next year or whatever it takes, especially if the Federation is very much not capable of keeping their existing fleet in service without a major shipyard, and a new threat just having made a first strike.

For Picard it was a moral obligation. For Starfleet it was Realpolitik and resource management. I'm with Picard on this one, but I can see the rationality of the other side as well.

I don't see where we're getting they idea that they 'built' thousands of ships for the rescue effort. Sure, that would take time, which is exactly why it makes no sense. A rescue mission can't wait for ships to be built. The destroyed fleet was being made operational/de-mothballed. It could be immediately replaced, to some degree, with active ships. And the idea that there are anywhere near enough ships in starfleet to catch terrorists moving around open space is laughable. Security concerns have to be focused primarily on perimeter security, intelligence and maybe orbital security, none of which require large numbers of starships.

 

[Vger23]

For Picard it was a moral obligation. For Starfleet it was Realpolitik and resource management. I'm with Picard on this one, but I can see the rationality of the other side as well.

A good, old fashioned ethical dilemma....? Sounds like Star Trek to me!

 

[DEWLine]

We still don't know how few or how many shipyards that Starfleet had access to for this process. I'd be surprised if it weren't mainly composed of refitted vessels with some new-build ships thrown in for command-and-control support. But clearly, Utopia Planitia was the heart of the process here.

 

[oberth]

I don't see where we're getting they idea that they 'built' thousands of ships for the rescue effort. Sure, that would take time, which is exactly why it makes no sense. A rescue mission can't wait for ships to be built. The destroyed fleet was being made operational/de-mothballed. It could be immediately replaced, to some degree, with active ships. And the idea that there are anywhere near enough ships in starfleet to catch terrorists moving around open space is laughable. Security concerns have to be focused primarily on perimeter security, intelligence and maybe orbital security, none of which require large numbers of starships.

any ragtag fleet would do

 

[BillJ]

For Picard it was a moral obligation. For Starfleet it was Realpolitik and resource management. I'm with Picard on this one, but I can see the rationality of the other side as well.

I can see both sides, though I wonder why Starfleet didn't simply scale back its operation to account for the loss of Mars resources vs. scuttling the whole thing?

Unless they believed the Romulans had something to do with the attack?

 

[Vger23]

Ok, so I'm going to put on my rarely-worn "negative Nancy" hat for a minute and ask a question:

Is anyone else as horrified as I am at the possibility that by Episode 6, we're going to have some disaster on that Borg Cube and the result will be that people start getting Borg-ified, and the mission will turn into "HOW DO WE STOP TEH BORGZ!??!!1!"

Please....Dear God I beg....please don't do this.

 

[CorporalClegg]

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[Noname Given]

Utopia Planitia was Starfleets main ship construction site. And it probably took quite a while to built 10.000 starships there.

With it (and the fleet in building) being entirely destroyed, I can absolutely see why the Federation doesn't want to spent their other few shipyards entirely for building another fleet for the next year or whatever it takes, especially if the Federation is very much not capable of keeping their existing fleet in service without a major shipyard, and a new threat just having made a first strike.

For Picard it was a moral obligation. For Starfleet it was Realpolitik and resource management. I'm with Picard on this one, but I can see the rationality of the other side as well.

One has to ask in all this -with the Romulans being a major intergalactic power with an Empire of their own; and with as much 'warning' as the Federation had why weren't they building their own evacuation fleet for their citizens? It wasn't like they lost the resources of any Romulan Empire shipyards as Romulus wasn't destroyed as yet. What I've never understood in all this was: Why was it up to the Fedetration alone to "save" the Romulans?

 

[DEWLine]

I suspect that it wasn't. But they needed that fleet from Utopia to get that last 900 million citizens...

 

[Longinus]

One has to ask in all this -with the Romulans being a major intergalactic power with an Empire of their own; and with as much 'warning' as the Federation had why weren't they building their own evacuation fleet for their citizens? It wasn't like they lost the resources of any Romulan Empire shipyards as Romulus wasn't destroyed as yet. What I've never understood in all this was: Why was it up to the Fedetration alone to "save" the Romulans?

Not alone. Federation's job was to evacuate 900 million people. Romulus and colonies near it presumably had much more.

 

[BillJ]

Ok, so I'm going to put on my rarely-worn "negative Nancy" hat for a minute and ask a question:

Is anyone else as horrified as I am at the possibility that by Episode 6, we're going to have some disaster on that Borg Cube and the result will be that people start getting Borg-ified, and the mission will turn into "HOW DO WE STOP TEH BORGZ!??!!1!"

Please....Dear God I beg....please don't do this.

I like the Borg. So, if done right, I don't have an issue with including them. I mean, we are already picking up tons of threads from TNG/movies, what's one more?

Why was it up to the Fedetration alone to "save" the Romulans?

I have to rewatch the episode: was it ever alluded to that Starfleet was alone responsible for the evacuation? I know someone mentioned 900 million, but I can't believe that is the entirety of the Romulan population.