Spoilers Picard 1x1, "Remembrance"

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  1. Blooded

    Blooded Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I only realised last night that Ethan Peck wasn't listed in the opening credits for the second season of Discovery, once he joined up halfway through. Seems Seven may be on a similar type of introduction, so fully expect she won't be billed as a series regular.
     
  2. eschaton

    eschaton Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    One thing is for sure, which is if the show takes as long to get off the ground as it seems, there will be a lot of fans who will be impatient/let down it's taking its time to ramp up. I mean, this is one of those things which would be no big deal if it were dumped all at once like a Netflix/Amazon Prime show, but will feel pretty frustrating with weekly release.
     
  3. KennyB

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    That's always fun when someone breaks THE CODE.
     
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  4. Crewman6

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    Major spoilers to follow --

    Jeri Ryan is not in the opening credits. Neither is Brent Spiner or Jonathan Del Arco, for that matter.

    The mission is to find Maddox, who disappeared. Maddox created Dahl and her - spoiler alert - twin sister. They have human bodies but android brains that were created from using parts(?) from Data.

    Dahjj dies in the first episode and Picard is trying to save the twin, who is working on the Borg cube.

    BTW, creating artificial life forms is illegal after the attack on Mars. Jurati and Maddox were only allowed to do theoretical stuff, not create actual androids or AI.
     
  5. Crewman6

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    None at all.
     
  6. Blooded

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    Damn, feels like Data's legacy and contribution to Starfleet has been shit all over by the behaviour of others since.
     
  7. locborg

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    guilty as charged. I thought @Crewman6 would be fine with disclosing these spoilers since they didn’t contain any personal information. Posted them without asking, my bad!
     
  8. Unimatrix Q

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    So it's actually a sequel to "Measure of a Man".
     
  9. Crewman6

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    Definitely. This is one of those shows where the individual episodes have no distinct story or character. They're just chunks out of the larger whole.

    Which is not an approach I'm a huge fan of. As much as I griped about "The Mandalorian" having so many standalones......

    But, in this case, given that the episodes really are just pieces of the whole....one a week is going to be annoying, especially since these first three are really just protracted set-up and backstory.
     
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  10. KennyB

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    So the 7 and Icheb part is all bullshit then.
     
  11. Crewman6

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    SPOILER ALERT
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  12. KennyB

    KennyB I have spoken............ Moderator

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    Thanks--figured as much.
     
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  13. Lord Garth

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    If this is a "10-hour movie" then it structurally makes sense. The first three episodes are really more like Act I of a film. More or less what I figured, but hearing this makes me adjust my expectations accordingly.

    Seeing the first episode of a 10-hour season here is basically the equivalent of watching the first 12 minutes of a feature film. I can see how that would make some people complain about the pacing. On the bright side, it'll royally mess up the argument certain people have that everything in Star Trek now is nothing but "bing-bang-boom!"
     
  14. eschaton

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    This is also why some spoilers are a good thing. Much like being mildly spoiled about the jumping time periods in The Witcher series helped me get up to speed much quicker.
     
  15. KennyB

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    Ha.......I had no clue. Think I finally figured it out in episode 5. I was soooooo confused.
     
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  16. urbandk

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    I still remember people griping about all the "'splosions" in ST09
     
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  17. Datasbeard

    Datasbeard Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Thanks for this. The premise sounds intriguing to me. Is it explained at all where they got the Data parts? He seemed pretty obliterated in NEM. Presumably, some components may have been removed and replaced over time.
     
  18. eschaton

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    I should also say that I don't really think Trek has ever had a great episode right out the bat. Mediocre is about as good as it gets. Sometimes - like Encounter at Farpoint - it's downright awful.
     
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  19. Tuskin38

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    That's B4 in the drawer.
     
  20. StewMc

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    Who’s android body was in the drawer? Is it B4 right enough?