Spoilers PIC: The Dark Veil by James Swallow - Review Thread

Discussion in 'Trek Literature' started by Jinn, Jan 5, 2021.

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  1. Allyn Gibson

    Allyn Gibson Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I used to be able to read a Trek novel in about 3-4 hours. It takes longer now; I became partially blind about fifteen months ago.
     
  2. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Admiral Admiral

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    Oh cool a Kelpien officer on the Titan

    Edit:

    Hm some references to the ST09 backstory (and the 09 Countdown comics) here

    Spock mentions working with the Vulcan Science Council on a project to help the Romulans, and wants to get in contact with Geordi regarding ship design and warp propulsion.

    There's also a Romulan scientist in the book that knows about red matter but the wording made it seem theoretical, at least to me
     
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  3. DS9forever

    DS9forever Commodore Commodore

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    The Lionheart is mentioned along with the Robinson: it was from The Poisoned Chalice novel by the same author.
     
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  4. Elwro

    Elwro Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    Apologies if this has been covered but I'd like to avoid spoilers for now. I'm aching for anything Picard-related, but would you guys say I should definitely read the Titan series before I tackle this novel? Or can I jump right in and perhaps appreciate the connections when I read the Titan series later?
     
  5. Jinn

    Jinn Mistress of the Chaotic Energies Rear Admiral

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    Nah, you don't have to read any previous novels for this one. They don't refer to any specific events from any previous Titan novel at all, and basically just import two characters, but you'll be introduced to an entirely new bridge crew anyway, so it won't really matter anyway.
     
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  6. Enterpriserules

    Enterpriserules Commodore Commodore

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    Really liked this one and can't wait to interview James about it for Literary Treks!
     
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  7. Elwro

    Elwro Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    Thank you!
     
  8. John Constant

    John Constant Ensign Newbie

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    I hope you are doing well and am glad that you still do the things you enjoy
     
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  9. Allyn Gibson

    Allyn Gibson Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Thanks, John! Some days are more challenging than others, but I manage. My vision began to "melt" and I thought I was having a stroke. Fortunately, I was not having a stroke, but my blood pressure was so high that I was going to. I spent a week in the ICU while they got my blood pressure under control (which is both a testament to how high it was and how it refused to come down), but my vision is still very wonky, and the way my brain processes what I can't see is borderline insane at time. Like I said, I manage.
     
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  10. John Constant

    John Constant Ensign Newbie

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    Wow. I can't imagine how frightening it must have been to go through all of that. I'm so glad that you ate able to maintain a positive outlook. You have an inner strength that i admire. Stay strong.
     
  11. flandry84

    flandry84 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Best of luck.
     
  12. E-DUB

    E-DUB Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    My personal theory is that the Picard of "Picard" isn't the Picard that we saw in TNG, but rather the Picard from the the JJVerse timeline.
     
  13. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

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    That makes no sense. The series's backstory is based heavily on the specific events of Nemesis and the Prime-universe backstory of the 2009 movie. It references numerous events from TNG and Voyager continuity. It's obviously in the Prime timeline.
     
  14. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Admiral Admiral

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    Oh right the USS Robinson was Sisko's ship in the old novel continuity.

    Well that's factually wrong.

    Picard is in the same timeline as all the other TV series.
     
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  15. James Swallow

    James Swallow Writer Captain

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    I also included engineer Karen McCreedy from the Titan novels as a bridge officer. The mention of the Robinson is a nod to Sisko's ship from the books, and the Lionheart is a vessel from my novel in The Fall series The Poisoned Chalice.

    Yeah, I couldn't resist...:rommie:

    Right on both counts.
     
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  16. DEWLine

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    Wasn't the Narada mainly intended as a mining support ship?
     
  17. USS Firefly

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    Yes I believe it was just a mining ship
     
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  18. phurren

    phurren Ensign Newbie

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    As a jazz fan, I loved the names of the shuttlecraft, although as I haven't read any other Titan novels (yet) I don't know if that was from previous books. I also really loved the Gurney Halleck line given to Picard.
     
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  19. David Weller

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    The names of the shuttles were in the previous Titan novels.

    TNG showed that Riker is a jazz fan.
     
  20. Tuskin38

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    Yes, but in the Countdown prequel, he went to a secret Tal'shiar base and had it modified with the Tal'shiar's secret borg tech augments.