PIC S3 Ships & Tech

It is really cool that Mr Blass is sharing the museum images but are they even paying attention to the numbers?

The Nebula-class Lexington is not longer than its width. Even someone looking at the top view can see that with the grid...

 

Indeed. It is almost exactly as wide as it is long.

Exactly. To this day, she still follows her proud tradition of shifting scales.

 

Also, a Nebula-class and a Galaxy-class are surely the same width – around 470m.

 

These numbers are copied from the DS9 Technical Manual which had its fair share of measurement problems. The Starship Spotter has the Nebula at 465 x 467,1 x 140,5

 

The Nebula has always seemed smaller than the Galaxy saucer - putting one against the other, namely the Phoenix flying in formation next to the Enterprise-D, makes the differences pretty stark IMO. The original model always looked like it had a couple less decks thanks to all the missing windows - but the subsequent CG model put all the windows back in, so YMMV.

Say, did Jackill's ever publish a TNG era book? I have the first two in hardcopy, but even that was ages ago...

Edit: Answering my own question...

Mark

 

The Arleigh Burke class destroyers is an example of a class that was restarted after the initial production had ended. The Zumwalt Class destroyers were initially to be a large batch, but was dramatically reduced in number owing to various problems with the design, so they instead restarted the production the Arleigh Burkes. I believe Flight III and then Flight IV were the new batches.

But restarting production of the Constitution 100+ years after the last one has no real world precedent that I know of. Hard to imagine a 1920s class being restarted. But if they are going to have a "neo-Constitution" (that may just be a nickname), I would prefer they just have a new bloc/batch/flight of Constitutions. Larger, heavier, faster, and more powerful obviously. I may take my own crack in the Art board at a rebooted Constitution design.

 

If I read those tweets right, the museum display model of the Saratoga is kind of a full-size kit bash Starfleet made out of other ships!

 

It's supposed to be the Saratoga from TVH that was modified to represent both the 2280's Saratoga and the 2360's Saratoga as an honor to both.

 

Restarting production on older models isn't feasible in real life. Boeing only just stopped building 747s, but much of the tooling still exists at least for now to create spare parts. The market doesn't exist for large four engined planes anymore, but if there was a sudden need for more 747s, they could probably still restart production. The market has shifted towards smaller, two-engined planes, and the older Boeing 757 has become a valuable vehicle for this reason, despite ending production in 2006. Boeing however can't simply restart the production line as it was disassembled completely to make room for other models, and it would cost too much to rebuild the line (and everyone who worked on the line has long since moved on). So instead they focused on making variants of the even older 737 to be longer and carry more people / fuel / cargo, modernizing a decades-old design. Recall the two fatal crashes of the 737 MAX8 for the results of this.

Bringing this back to Starfleet, there's only so much blood you can get from a stone. You could fix the Enterprise-E easily after her saucer got wrecked, especially if the class was still being built or maintained - but years after, it would make sense to build something else, and IMO that's why we have the Enterprise-F.

Mark

 

AH! That would explain the rollbar on the schematic. I missed that - good explanation, thank you!

 

The greatest Biological Weapon of all, the Genetically Engineered "Omnivorous Tribble".
It'll eat anything, Plants, Flesh, etc and breed more of itself.

It also has gained a "Face Hugger" like attack with multiple small teeth.

 

I wonder if they mistakenly assumed Sisko’s ship was still operational and retconned the old Saratoga explanation after the fact? Unfortunately I get the impression that they don’t like to admit when they make mistakes.

And I’m still miffed that they used the barely-perceptible 30405 registry from Measure of a Man for the Nebula class Lexington. I mean, c’mon, Dave, I love that you’re sharing all this ship info with us, but this was clearly incorrect.

 

If that were true they could‘ve just as easily claimed that the ship was named something else. It really wasn‘t visible in the episode so we wouldn‘t have noticed the cover-up.

 

Well, it’s definitely not as egregious a thing as the Lexington’s registry.

 

Kinda funny having the Saratoga there if they wanted a Sisko/DS9 connection, I mean the Defiant is right there. The ship that he had a hand in designing to boot.

 

I'm glad none of the dimensions made it on screen. The Enterprise-A got shrunk and also weirdly proportioned.


While the Saratoga is much larger now (wider than the Enterprise-A's primary hull)

 

Why does the Saratoga look like it’s had some kind of swirly art filter done on it but the others look normal? Kind of a noodle-scratcher.