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PIC S3 Ships & Tech

The dialogue in TUC was "We have a crew of three hundred turning their own quarters inside out..." which might just mean those off-duty but it could be interpreted as a smaller crew....

It could be smaller just for that mission. The -A was being sent straight out to the border to come straight back to Earth, with no plans for any exploration or analysis or encounters with unknown phenomena, so they wouldn’t have needed the entire non-operational crew of scientists and whatnot, just the people who actually make the ship go.
 
A “warp governor“ is an intentional throwback to the NX design that clearly inspired the Eleos, but does that mean that later / all Federation starships don’t have one somewhere internally? Perhaps one needs to be placed about mid-nacelle lengthwise, and this happened to e the best place to put it on this design? Or maybe some designs are big enough to place them in the nacelles?
This was 20 years ago when ENT was still airing on UPN, but one idea that was floated about was that a warp governor was something unique to the NX-class and kept it stable at speeds of Warp 5. Later designs with more advanced engines wouldn't need it.
 
Considering the reveal that that Security Officers need to inform the inmates about the strenght of the force field, i wonder what happens to a person touching the field. Previously i thought starfleet force fields, probably unlike the ones the Dominion or other Powers use, are just like walls and have no negative effect on people's health.
 
“Flux chillers” were mentioned on the Enterprise in TMP and TWOK.
The flux chillers are something from the FJ Technical Manual, that's how he labeled the rectangles near the ends of the warp engine nacelles.
Considering the reveal that that Security Officers need to inform the inmates about the strenght of the force field, i wonder what happens to a person touching the field. Previously i thought starfleet force fields, probably unlike the ones the Dominion or other Powers use, are just like walls and have no negative effect on people's health.
There's usually often an element of electrical shock with the security forcefields, which seems to range from "oooo... tingly" to "knock you on your ass and turn your silver eyes back to normal".
 
Both of these are dumb ideas, but the fact that they're needed is because of an even dumber (& lazier) idea, so absolved by default

I did say I was being generous ;) I'm really not a fan of this idea either.

If you go by the 11,000 dead on 39 ships at Wolf 359, average crew complement was around 300. But that's including large Ambassador and Nebula class ships among the much smaller ones.

We know from TNG that crew sizes in the 24th century are a lot smaller than they were on equivalent ships in the 23rd century. We have canonical crew sizes for Miranda-class ships in the 2360s of only 34 (Brattain) and 28 (Lantree), and these are ships with approximately the same internal volume as the Constitution-class! 300 as an average seems reasonable when we consider that there's Excelsiors, Ambassadors, and Nebulas present, and medium-sized ships like the Intrepid-class still have smaller crew sizes than that in the 2370s.

Hospital Ship? More like Clinic Ship, amirite? ;)

I would expect a hospital ship to be quite large, but maybe it's a fast-response triage ship, designed to race to the scene of any medical emergency and deliver immediate care and assessment ahead of the larger, slower response ships?

A “warp governor“ is an intentional throwback to the NX design that clearly inspired the Eleos, but does that mean that later / all Federation starships don’t have one somewhere internally? Perhaps one needs to be placed about mid-nacelle lengthwise, and this happened to e the best place to put it on this design? Or maybe some designs are big enough to place them in the nacelles?

I always assumed that's what the off-axis field controller at the back of most warp nacelles was supposed to be. You can either have one large central unit or smaller separate units in each nacelle working in concert. Presumably the trade-off is that a central unit is simpler to operate and maintain, but the separate units give finer control. I could of course be completely wrong :shrug:
 
The flux chillers are something from the FJ Technical Manual, that's how he labeled the rectangles near the ends of the warp engine nacelles.

There's usually often an element of electrical shock with the security forcefields, which seems to range from "oooo... tingly" to "knock you on your ass and turn your silver eyes back to normal".

Unlike with Dominion force fields, which seemed to be deadly, in TNG some people were able to rest their hands on the field in the brig for a while without getting buzzed or otherwise being hurt.

Didn't seem to really affect them at all.
 
Unlike with Dominion force fields, which seemed to be deadly, in TNG some people were able to rest their hands on the field in the brig for a while without getting buzzed or otherwise being hurt.

Didn't seem to really affect them at all.
I don’t remember this, can you think of an example?

In TOS and often in other series (example: voy: meld) it was obviously painful trying to go through a force field.
 
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So is the Eleos the 12th ship to bear that name, or perhaps named after a planet? :D
 
Dave Blass posted more information on the Eleos on his Twitter account. Apparently the Eleos is a Phoenix-class ship, "designed as a small rapid response vessel ... the Phoenix-class was a move towards higher warp speeds in smaller designs." The warp field governor is key to such relatively high speeds in a small ship.
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Interesting that these images show the bridge moved down one level where Drexler's images seem to point at the conference room window like structure above.

Dave Blass posted more information on the Eleos on his Twitter account. Apparently the Eleos is a Phoenix-class ship, "designed as a small rapid response vessel ... the Phoenix-class was a move towards higher warp speeds in smaller designs." The warp field governor is key to such relatively high speeds in a small ship.
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The first time Q touches the forcefield, immediately after Worf puts him in the brig cell, he seems to recoil in shock when it flares. Certainly he seems to find it uncomfortable to touch ("this is beginning to get on my nerves, now that I have them!").

Good point. Thought before that Q was simply pissed and annoyed that he couldn't leave the cell. But i doubt that the effect (at least in TNG) is actually like an electrical shock. He wasn't convulsing or pushed back by the field.

Still wondering about what it really does to a body and what it feels like.
 
Perhaps force fields get gradually uncomfortable up to actually painful and even dangerous the more you try to push through them?

Yeah, i could really imagine that. Perhaps the strenght level of the force field determines how much pain it can inflict on prisoners trying to get out.

But what kind of injuries could a force field cause? Burns perhaps? But in this case if Dominion force fields use a similar technology, what makes them so deadly if you just touch them, if we rule out causing electrical shocks?
 
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