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Photoshop Enterprise!

Ok, Sector 7 once I get started on this stuff I just can't stop. Here's your finished wallpaper. I hope ya like it.
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That's like building the ship on the ground. Sure, you could do it, but why the hell would you when there are far more feasible ways to go about it?
It seems to me far more feasible that they'd build large sections on the ground to allow workers unskilled in the dangerous art of zero-G vacuum construction to work on it. Larger labor pool, safer, lower cost.

And how do you launch that thing without vaporizing half of Iowa? Any savings in building it on the ground are blown by having to expend the energy of lifting that behemoth into orbit. As I and others have pointed out, it's not a matter of canon, it's a matter of credibility, and building a monster like that on the ground is not credible.
 
That's like building the ship on the ground. Sure, you could do it, but why the hell would you when there are far more feasible ways to go about it?
It seems to me far more feasible that they'd build large sections on the ground to allow workers unskilled in the dangerous art of zero-G vacuum construction to work on it. Larger labor pool, safer, lower cost.

And how do you launch that thing without vaporizing half of Iowa? Any savings in building it on the ground are blown by having to expend the energy of lifting that behemoth into orbit. As I and others have pointed out, it's not a matter of canon, it's a matter of credibility, and building a monster like that on the ground is not credible.

In a film where a group of aliens travel in time and people travel faster than light?

Credibility lives on the next street over and he doesn't answer Star Trek's phonecalls.
 
So, expend all the power required to lift a 200,000 metric ton object out of a fairly intense gravity well and hope to hell you don't blow a fuse in the process and trash the entire ship in the process, wasting billions in credits, years of work, and probably kill God only know how many people....or use a lot less energy sending up pieces, assembling them in an orbital drydock (like we've seen numerous times already) and not risk the entire project if something goes wrong during launch.

Yeah. Right. Tell me another one.

Oh, and where exactly is this tractor beam coming from? If it's another ship, now we're talking about a ship fighting to stay aloft while also trying to lift up a couple hundred thousand TONS of deadweight.

Nah, nothing to go wrong there.
 
Since they can propel something with a mass of several million metric tons many times faster than light I don't think "wasting energy" is an issue.
 
So, expend all the power required to lift a 200,000 metric ton object out of a fairly intense gravity well and hope to hell you don't blow a fuse in the process and trash the entire ship in the process, wasting billions in credits, years of work, and probably kill God only know how many people....or use a lot less energy sending up pieces, assembling them in an orbital drydock (like we've seen numerous times already) and not risk the entire project if something goes wrong during launch.

Yeah. Right. Tell me another one.

But the ship gets into space so within this fictional universe IT WORKS, and unless this is the first ship constructed by Star Fleet, it's worked for generations.

You can piss and moan all you like but IT WORKS.
 
But that's NOT the way it's been done for generations. Just look the launch of the NX-01 Enterprise and NX-02 Columbia.

Hell, for that matter, take a look at the International Space Station.
 
But that's NOT the way it's been done for generations. Just look the launch of the NX-01 Enterprise and NX-02 Columbia.

Who really gives a fuck? That's how it's done now - Millions of people will see that film and will be able to answer the question "where was the Enterprise built" and a million voices will cry out

"It was built on Earth Joe".

You can write thousands of words on the internet saying why it's wrong - but it's irrelevant - the enterprise was built on Earth.
 
And how do you launch that thing without vaporizing half of Iowa? Any savings in building it on the ground are blown by having to expend the energy of lifting that behemoth into orbit. As I and others have pointed out, it's not a matter of canon, it's a matter of credibility, and building a monster like that on the ground is not credible.
The same way it was originally envisioned being built in large sections and then boosted into and assembled in orbit - boost it in sections using anti-gravs.

I doubt we'll see it boost from the ground into space in this movie - you can chalk up its full assembly on the ground to an all-up systems integration test before its shipped starside.

BTW - It might not be in Iowa. ;)

As for your ISS analogy - the components are built on Earth, not fabricated in orbit. And even assembling it in space is damn dangerous.
 
So, expend all the power required to lift a 200,000 metric ton object out of a fairly intense gravity well
Child's play in the Trek universe. Just for example, the BOP and Voyager both seemed to do it pretty well.

...and hope to hell you don't blow a fuse in the process and trash the entire ship in the process, wasting billions in credits, years of work, and probably kill God only know how many people...
I imagine they do it real careful like.

...or use a lot less energy sending up pieces, assembling them in an orbital drydock
It's not actually less energy. Probably more, but not all at once. Like credit.

...(like we've seen numerous times already) and not risk the entire project if something goes wrong during launch.
It's not much of a risk in the Trekverse.

Yeah. Right. Tell me another one.
They can move faster than light.

Oh, and where exactly is this tractor beam coming from? If it's another ship, now we're talking about a ship fighting to stay aloft while also trying to lift up a couple hundred thousand TONS of deadweight.

Nah, nothing to go wrong there.
Probably from the Enterprise herself, pushing against the Earth. In that case it would be a thruster which acts as a repulsor beam. Or they could use anti-gravs. Or whatever the BOP used to take off - with little except a stiff breeze.
 
Still looking for a space background for this. Where is data65 when I need him?

Ok, here ya go. I tried to 3D it a little for ya.
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Ok, Sector 7 once I get started on this stuff I just can't stop. Here's your finished wallpaper. I hope ya like it.
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I need a cigarette... two orgasms in five minutes... I'm exhausted...:drool:
As soon as I crop it a little for my widescreen laptop, I'll have my true love onscreen!:drool:
 
There are enough differences in that ship that it could've been put out by any studio with any other name but "Star Trek" and there's a better than average chance that they could avoid a copyright infringement lawsuit.


:guffaw::guffaw::guffaw::guffaw::guffaw:

That's brilliant! Cheers for the laugh!
 
Ok, the first order of buisness...Sector 7...you're welcome..hope it didn't get too messy.
Second order of buisness. Ok, how do you launch a starship into space? Well I hate to be the one to point this out, but it starts with two words..BLUE ALERT! If you still don't get it, I'm sure Admiral Janeway can clue you in.
Pretty sad when a semi-geek has to straiten the flaming,hardcore, super geeks out.:rommie:
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