Gee, does this mean I'm now allowed to post suggestive pictures of female porn stars? I'm sure I've got some nifty Jenna Jameson pics that'll just be marvy.
And gay folks wonder why they get accused of trying to ram an agenda down our throats.
Back to the subject at hand.
Frankly, I'm not the least bit surprised to see David posting here. For one thing, he posted in one of the news threads years ago. Of course, the fact that he's still an ensign indicates that he hasn't posted much since, but that's another subject.
I'm sure more than a few folks around here know that my politics tends to fall somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun, but let me say that this story is long and shamefully overdue. I blame Roddenberry's lawyer, but that, again, is another subject.
There is, though, that matter of THE SCENE!!! (Cue music bit from "The Corbomite Maneuver", the one where the Fesarius arrives). Not the content, per se, but the staging of it. I'm not sure any real editing could be done without effectively gutting it, since all the dialogue is somewhat important, and it's not really the overall length of the scene. It has more to do with Freeman trying to get into Peter's jumper from the second he entered the room, which pretty much turned the entire four minute scene into a snogfest. Seriously, David, I've participated in orgies that were more subtle. Certainly Alex can show concern and affection for Peter without coming on from the get-go with an attitude of "C'mon, big boy, get nekkid and fuck me now!" At least he could've behaved himself until checking Peter's injury, and then started in with the kissyface. If nothing else, it would've kept the snogging in the last minute or so of the scene, which is a lot less awkward to watch, while still establishing the relationship and without sacrificing any pertinent information (and, let's be honest, be a lot more on par with the length of all the other love scenes we've seen in Star Trek to this point).
A good model to look at might be, ironically, the storyline they're running on "As The World Turns" with the gay characters; they're not really pulling any punches, and there's plenty of shirtless smooching for those so interested, but they also know where the line is, where if they cross it, folks start switching over to the Food Network.
So, from my standpoint, the only effective solution I see is reshooting the scene. Probably not bloody likely, but that's how I see it.
And gay folks wonder why they get accused of trying to ram an agenda down our throats.
Back to the subject at hand.
Frankly, I'm not the least bit surprised to see David posting here. For one thing, he posted in one of the news threads years ago. Of course, the fact that he's still an ensign indicates that he hasn't posted much since, but that's another subject.
I'm sure more than a few folks around here know that my politics tends to fall somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun, but let me say that this story is long and shamefully overdue. I blame Roddenberry's lawyer, but that, again, is another subject.
There is, though, that matter of THE SCENE!!! (Cue music bit from "The Corbomite Maneuver", the one where the Fesarius arrives). Not the content, per se, but the staging of it. I'm not sure any real editing could be done without effectively gutting it, since all the dialogue is somewhat important, and it's not really the overall length of the scene. It has more to do with Freeman trying to get into Peter's jumper from the second he entered the room, which pretty much turned the entire four minute scene into a snogfest. Seriously, David, I've participated in orgies that were more subtle. Certainly Alex can show concern and affection for Peter without coming on from the get-go with an attitude of "C'mon, big boy, get nekkid and fuck me now!" At least he could've behaved himself until checking Peter's injury, and then started in with the kissyface. If nothing else, it would've kept the snogging in the last minute or so of the scene, which is a lot less awkward to watch, while still establishing the relationship and without sacrificing any pertinent information (and, let's be honest, be a lot more on par with the length of all the other love scenes we've seen in Star Trek to this point).
A good model to look at might be, ironically, the storyline they're running on "As The World Turns" with the gay characters; they're not really pulling any punches, and there's plenty of shirtless smooching for those so interested, but they also know where the line is, where if they cross it, folks start switching over to the Food Network.
So, from my standpoint, the only effective solution I see is reshooting the scene. Probably not bloody likely, but that's how I see it.
