Personal continuity..... Anyone?

[Nerys Myk]

Its not childish - why endure hours of stuff that you don't even like? Also, what if you have your own explanation for something? And what if canon info just doesn't cut it in front of other, more preferable solutions?

Its all subjective, but a fan always has a choice.

Endure it??? No one is forcing you to watch it!!!! I dont like Voyager or STV, so I dont watch them. They're still part of continuity and impact on my enjoyment of the other shows and movies not one bit.

If you have your own explanation for something that doesnt fit canon,so what. Its not like its going to see the light of day anwhere other than your fanfic or imagination. Just dont be so foolish to argue the point as if it carries more weight then the "official" version.

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

Its a matter of taste. Its not like one formulates it by will - it happens. When you just don't really invest yourself in something, but enjoy the rest of it, you reach this reconsiliation.

Its more of a loose term for what one likes to view and whatnot. I mean, I'm sure a lot of fans around here accept certain novels into their own "personal continuities", because they're good novels.

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

Endure it??? No one is forcing you to watch it!!!! I dont like Voyager or STV, so I dont watch them. They're still part of continuity and impact on my enjoyment of the other shows and movies not one bit.

If you have your own explanation for something that doesnt fit canon,so what. Its not like its going to see the light of day anwhere other than your fanfic or imagination. Just dont be so foolish to argue the point as if it carries more weight then the "official" version.

Thats silly. I never argued my version of something is better than another. I only said that I choose to ignore facts set by VOY and ENT, for my own enjoyment. I never forced anyone my continuity, you know...

Also, I don't follow fan-fics. I'm still beggining to grasp at the novelverse of Trek, which proves to be very fruitful and entertaining in its own right.

But is it that bad for one to have his own personal continuity? Its not like I'm ignoring life - its a TV show, if anything. Next thing you're gonna tell me, is that I'm not a Trek fan for not adhering to Star Trek post-1999.

 

[EliyahuQeoni]

Endure it??? No one is forcing you to watch it!!!!

And I imagine someone who doesn't count certain shows/movies as "personal canon" likely doesn't watch them often or at all.

and impact on my enjoyment of the other shows and movies not one bit.

Almost as if they never happened

I just don't see why you care whether or not someone else considers certain parts of the franchise "real" Star Trek or not.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Endure it??? No one is forcing you to watch it!!!! I dont like Voyager or STV, so I dont watch them. They're still part of continuity and impact on my enjoyment of the other shows and movies not one bit.

If you have your own explanation for something that doesnt fit canon,so what. Its not like its going to see the light of day anwhere other than your fanfic or imagination. Just dont be so foolish to argue the point as if it carries more weight then the "official" version.

Thats silly. I never argued my version of something is better than another. I only said that I choose to ignore facts set by VOY and ENT, for my own enjoyment. I never forced anyone my continuity, you know...

I didn;t say you did. I just said dont try too.

Also, I don't follow fan-fics. I'm still beggining to grasp at the novelverse of Trek, which proves to be very fruitful and entertaining in its own right.

I don't either, but its a good place to present your "personal continuity" in story form. The "novelverse" is fun but it's not always a single continuity. The editors allow a little leeway for the sake of a good story

But is it that bad for one to have his own personal continuity? Its not like I'm ignoring life - its a TV show, if anything. Next thing you're gonna tell me, is that I'm not a Trek fan for not adhering to Star Trek post-1999.

Bad? No. But call it what it is: Likes and dislikes. Personal continuity has an air of "LALALALALALALALALA!!! I got my fingers in my ears!!!!" Why would I accuse you on not being a Trek fan???? What in my post led you to think that that would be my next step?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Endure it??? No one is forcing you to watch it!!!!

And I imagine someone who doesn't count certain shows/movies as "personal canon" likely doesn't watch them often or at all.

and impact on my enjoyment of the other shows and movies not one bit.

Almost as if they never happened

I just don't see why you care whether or not someone else considers certain parts of the franchise "real" Star Trek or not.

It's a topic on a discussion board. I enjoy dicussion.

If someting VOY or STV crops in a book I'm reading or an episode I accept it. Doesn't take me out of the story or make me want to break the TV. If I, thru some Charitable act of God, got a chance to work on Trek in film or prose I wouldn't ignore VOY or STV if I could mine a good story from them. So, for me its not like they never happened.

 

[EliyahuQeoni]

It's a topic on a discussion board. I enjoy dicussion.

That is an answer I can respect!

 

[ialfan]

Star Trek TOS, Star Trek TAS, Star Trek TNG, Star Trek DS9, Star Trek VOY, Star Trek ENT, All 10 Films thus far and the following novels:

TNG Relaunch Series + A Time to... Series, Titan Series, Articles of the Federation, DS9 Relaunch, VOY Relaunch, ENT Relaunch, Vanguard Series, Mirror Universe Series, Imzadi
Pathways + Mosaic, Crossover (Novel), Dark Matters Trilogy + more as I read them.

 

[Therin of Andor]

I have absolutely no idea what caused him to change his mind a decade later, and considering that I have never seen or heard anything attributed to GR concerning his decision to throw TAS into limbo (all such reports came from second and third hand sources) I will give him the benefit of the doubt and instead blame the studio suits du jour.

A brief quote from the 1989 memo from the Star Trek Office, which was penned by Richard Arnold on behalf of GR, is quoted in DC Comics' TOS Series II, issue #1, explaining why Arex and M'Ress had to be dropped from the storyline.

As I've suggested before, this date tallies with the folding of Filmation Studios, the backlist of all Filmation products being declared in contractual flux, and Larry Niven attempting to sign off on a "Ringworld" RPG, which would have kzinti in it.

 

[Kronos]

TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, movies 1-6 and half of movie 7.

Picard is still in the nexus

 

[chancellorjake]

Personal continuity has an air of "LALALALALALALALALA!!! I got my fingers in my ears!!!!"

Heh! That idea works for me.
I enjoy almost all the forms of Star Trek in some way, but there are a few areas that I must disavow.

I would include (and ignore):
TOS (skip the worst parts of Season 3), TNG (skip Code of Honor), DS9, VOY (skip Threshold and Chakotay/Seven of Nine), ENT (skip These Are The Voyages, but only because it was a Holodeck error and doesn't reflect true historical events), Movies 1-4, (skip some of 5), 6-8, and (skip some of 9).
I really hate Nemesis, so I have to ignore huge sections of it. I would maintain most of the Riker/Troi wedding (it was actually in Alaska and not in a crappy reception hall). Deanna didn't wear the fugly pink gown, though.

Unfortunately, I've never seen a single episode of TAS, so I can't include that. The animation stills that I've seen look horrid, so I don't imagine that I'm missing much. I really despise crappy 1970's animation. If they ever redo the animation with the original voice tracks I may include most of the episodes. It would be interesting to see a Justice League treatment done with TAS.

 

[UnknownSample]

I'd only eliminate Enterprise, because the first steps of humanity out of our solar system have to be a hell of a lot more interesting than that.

 

[C.E. Evans]

For me, it's ENT*, TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, all the movies, and all of the "relaunch" novels set after TNG, DS9, and VOY ended.

*The only thing different with ENT in my personal continuity is the look of the ship. It still has its basic shape, but more TOS-style coloring, warp nacelles, and deflector dish. Once the ENT "relaunch" line of novels start rolling, I'll be able to incorporate that into my continuity too...

 

[HRHTheKING]

I maintain a personal canon and continuity.

If I find something problematic, I scrap it and make up my own explanation, or just remove it entirely.

ENT for example. I reject mostly all of it, except for one thing, that a man named Emory Erickson invented the transporter.

 

[EnsignJulka]

TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY, all the movies, most of the books. Anything which makes sense to me I will accept. ENT I don't just for that reason...

 

[JM1776]

I find it interesting that certain posters feel the need to deride the concept of personal continuity, when such is actually indicative of just how engaging the Star Trek universe at large is to the passionate, discriminating viewer. Hint, hint: The fact that you accept all that transpired onscreen is your personal continuity. It just happens, in your case, to coincide with canon. Rejecting certain elements of canon is something of a literary "love the sinner, hate the sin" philosophy.

That said ...

... I acknowledge all onscreen material that does not set off my bullshit detector. For example, I'm sure Tom Paris attempted a test flight of the warp ten shuttle; I don't buy that he and Janeway metamorphosed into lizardlike creatures, got it on and had rug-reps as a result. Thus, I accept only a modified version of "Threshold," one that requires some hand-waving (and about which I attempt to avoid thinking). I find the concept of a small Federation as espoused in DS9 tiresome and contrary to the spirit of Star Trek, and so make certain assumptions that allow me to reconcile the huge UFP of TOS and TNG with the tiny one of DS9.

While I accept certain elements of both pro- and fanfic into my personal continuity, they are in my opinion equally canonical—that is to say, not at all. I don't in the least, for example, accept any portion of the various Relaunches—in large measure because I disagree with many of the directions taken therein.

 

[GodThingFormerly]

As I've suggested before, this date tallies with the folding of Filmation Studios, the backlist of all Filmation products being declared in contractual flux, and Larry Niven attempting to sign off on a "Ringworld" RPG, which would have kzinti in it.

That theory definitely works for me.

TGT

 

[SiddFinch1]

I accept all the series and movies, but particulars events I conviently forget. I insert certain events from the books that I like that are not directly contradicted.

 

[Cyke101]

I accept everything as canon. But most of all, my Star Trek comic is canon. Sure, I haven't written it or anything, nor do I have the slightest clue on what will happen, but it's canon to me, dammit!

 

[SeerSGB]

My personal continuity and/or fanon? Grab a beer and a bag of chips for this one:

-- TOS is a separate timeline composed of TOS, TAS, and the first 6 movies with the original 1980s DC Comics thrown in to fill out the years between movies. Star Trek ends with Kirk and Co. riding off into the sunset at the end of STVI (This is my own personal "prime" timeline.

-- Second timeline = TOS, TAS, first 6 movies, TNG, with DS9 up to "the visitor" with the future being the one portrayed in "All Good Things"

-- Third Timeline = Enterprise, 99% of Voyager, all the TNG movies, and DS9 after "The Visitor" belonging to a alternate tangential Timeline created by the events of Generations and First Contact.

All of this the byproduct of years of too much RPGing, to many 'Trek comics, and growing up before TNG when the TOS movies were the only game in town.