People who liked G.I. Joe but not Transformers 2...

[Aragorn]

Armond White recommends both these movies!

 

[Thrall]

Which black guy did you think was supposed to be the team leader?!?!?!?!

Duke wasn't the team leader. Heavy Duty was. That much was obvious.

Hawk was the team leader.

No, he was in charge of all of GI Joe. Heavy Duty was in charge of Alpha Team.

That I'll give without a doubt. Also after thinking about I'm prepared to give G.I. Joe the slight edge since there's not any huge stuff I actually would have changed about it, whereas I admit that Transformers 2 would have been a better movie if they'd cut the twins and the roommate.

The roommate was unnecessary, obnoxious, and like many things in the movie distracted from the main plot. The idiot agent who liked to put his ballsack right in the camera was less annoying then he was. I've heard they're going to be bringing him back too. Because that's one thing I remember from the cartoon. John Toturo's sweaty taint.

But the twins. Wow. Who in their right mind thought that was a good idea. It was like a bad Boondocks or Robot Chicken skit run amok. They weren't funny. They were horribly offensive and crossed lines that really didn't need to be crossed. And the fact that we got stuck with them instead of the cool Transformers like Rachet and Ironhide pissed me off. I don't think Micheal Bay is a racist though. I just think that he's really, really fucking stupid.

 

[roguephoenix]

O_O

I did! It's filmed a bit too close and stuff keeps flying around the screen. I still enjoyed it, but that would have been my main change to G.I. Joe: just pull the camera back a little. They did that in Transformers 2 compared to the first and it helps the action a lot.

oh! you meant visually. i thought you meant story-wise. i was about to say... >_> lol ok.

 

[Valar]

The thing I hated about TF2 was that nothing consequential occurred. The characters at the beginning and at the end are the same, nothing has changed in them or around them, they survived yet another monstrous attack by the Decepticons and then Sam goes back to college.

Whereas in GIJOE you see the origins of the team, and the origin of Cobra.

I doubt I'll ever watch TF2 again, but I am definitely renting GIJOE. I don't know if I would recommend either movie for a friend to pay full or matinee price, but maybe a Redbox rental for GIJOE.

 

[MNM]

The thing I hated about TF2 was that nothing consequential occurred. The characters at the beginning and at the end are the same, nothing has changed in them or around them, they survived yet another monstrous attack by the Decepticons and then Sam goes back to college.

Now you're just wrong. Over the course of the movie, the Matrix of leadership was found, the last elder prime was killed, megatron was revived, Sam and Michaela grew closer, and most importantly, Sam gained a maturity which was developed over the course of the movie and is definitely a different person at the end than he was at the beginning.

If you didnt like it, you didnt like it. But to say nothing consequential happened or that no character is developed is just nonsense.

 

[3D Master]

GI Joe was okay, it was fun, until mid second half of the movie when . . . something stupid happened, which I can't remember because it got overshadowed by such utter stupidity it bleached the previous stupidity out of my mind: they blow up the ice cap. And I thought, what the fuck for? And then I started realizing, nah, it can't be, they can't be doing what I think they're going to do, can they? And yes, the pieces of ice, fell/floated down through the water on the Cobra base below. : puts head in hands, shakes head in exasperation:

Also, the Baroness isn't the Baroness, she's just a victim who got brainwashed by nanites? Oh, excuse me, nanomites . What the fuck is the point of having the baroness if she isn't the baroness?

And what for anyway? Feminism managed to brainwash Hollywood producers into thinking women are saints who can only be evil if they've been brainwashed by men?

Also, the GI Joe subtitle is "The Rise of Cobra", right? But the movie seemed to be "The Complete and Utter Defeat of Cobra". WTF is going on with that?

TF2 I didn't even bother to watch.

 

[Valar]

The thing I hated about TF2 was that nothing consequential occurred. The characters at the beginning and at the end are the same, nothing has changed in them or around them, they survived yet another monstrous attack by the Decepticons and then Sam goes back to college.

Now you're just wrong. Over the course of the movie, the Matrix of leadership was found, the last elder prime was killed, megatron was revived, Sam and Michaela grew closer, and most importantly, Sam gained a maturity which was developed over the course of the movie and is definitely a different person at the end than he was at the beginning.

If you didnt like it, you didnt like it. But to say nothing consequential happened or that no character is developed is just nonsense.

1- Matrix of leadership, they kill optimus, introduced this artifact, then use it up to revive optimus- in the end there is zero sum gain.

2-Last Prime elder killed- again, introduced in this one, dies in this one, zero sum gain

3- Megatron revived- I'll give you this one, this was a significant occurance for the next movie.

4-Sam and Mikayla grew closer- how so? because he said he loved her? he felt it from the first scene onwards, you could tell by the dialog and the way it was played that it was understood that's the way he already felt. then they had that half assed attempt at a rough patch and a patch up- totally useless subplot, treading water IMO. It didn't convince me that anything significant was happening.

5-Sam gained a maturity- I must've missed this entirely, please specify what maturing was accomplished? He starts out wanting to chart his own way, go to college, become someone. He gets sucked into the Autobot war, survives and then happily goes back to college. It's not like he wanted to join the Autobot war or help Optimus, he had to- he was manuevered first by the Decepticons hunting him and then the Federal government hunting him, he did what he did to survive then went back to school.

 

[Trekker4747]

GI Joe had characters in it that one could care about, not to mention the titular characters were big parts of the movie.

Transformers? Not so much.

The action in GI Joe was also better spaced out and done. Transformers skull-fucked the shit out of you for a straight hour with action that meant nothing to the plot.

The two are vastly different.

 

[Timby]

But the twins. Wow. Who in their right mind thought that was a good idea. It was like a bad Boondocks or Robot Chicken skit run amok. They weren't funny. They were horribly offensive and crossed lines that really didn't need to be crossed. And the fact that we got stuck with them instead of the cool Transformers like Rachet and Ironhide pissed me off. I don't think Micheal Bay is a racist though. I just think that he's really, really fucking stupid.

What's remarkable is that Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman, who wrote the fucking characters, said that they were surprised at how far the minstrel show gimmick was taken. Things like the one robot's gold tooth and a lot of the jive talking were not in the script.

 

[Thrall]

But the twins. Wow. Who in their right mind thought that was a good idea. It was like a bad Boondocks or Robot Chicken skit run amok. They weren't funny. They were horribly offensive and crossed lines that really didn't need to be crossed. And the fact that we got stuck with them instead of the cool Transformers like Rachet and Ironhide pissed me off. I don't think Micheal Bay is a racist though. I just think that he's really, really fucking stupid.

What's remarkable is that Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman, who wrote the fucking characters, said that they were surprised at how far the minstrel show gimmick was taken. Things like the one robot's gold tooth and a lot of the jive talking were not in the script.

And big noses and big ears. And they can't read. Even though they're robots.

I'm still worried about Star Trek 2 though. Just because those two wrote this script. I'm very, very worried actually.