You know nothing of history then. That's been happening since the beginning.
Palin steps down as governor
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You know nothing of history then. That's been happening since the beginning.
Chimpy Chompy: In my case I am being completely honest...I'm not weaseling. That was my first impression right from the start and those I've known in real life would tell you I've been completely consistent in that all the way back to the vice presidential debate.
If that isn't an American tradition, i don't know what is.
I actually don't remember much about the family. Just Bristol, that got brought out all the time with her now ex......
I know she has a bunch of kids though.
Mitt Romney it is then!
If Sarah Palin was smart, she wouldn't go up against Obama at all, She would have finished out her term as Governor and either ran for re-election for another four year term or run for the Senate and then run for President in 2016. At least then, she'd have a chance. She has no chance in 2012. She's too polarizing to appeal to moderates and independents. A solid Right Winger like her will only pull in about 40-45% of the nationwide vote.
And in America's electoral college system, she fares even worse. She can win Texas and Oklahoma and Mississippi and Utah, but can she win in states outside the Bible belt and Deep South? Judging by the McCain/Palin peformance in 2008, the answer is not looking too good for her.
The Democrats do tend to win in the big states like CA and NY.
If that were strictly on a policy level, I would completely agree. But making YOURSELF a public figure does NOT mean your family automatically loses all rights.
When SHE made the decision to thrust her unwed, pregnant teenage daughter into the spotlight by accepting the nomination then she loses the "moral high ground" of complaining about media coverage. She KNEW what would happen and she did it anyway. If she DIDN'T know what would happen then that is even more evidence that she was woefully unprepared for national office.
I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone takes this mouth-breathing fundie seriously.
You know, I didn't vote for Obama in the primaries. And for a minute, I actually considered John McCain. I mean the man is a bona fide American Hero, for Jim's sake.
But then he picked Governor Church Lady, and it was over quickly.
I don't care what the people of Alaska do. It's their state. But come on! Sarah Palin as President of the United States??
There is no fucking way.
You know, I didn't vote for Obama in the primaries. And for a minute, I actually considered John McCain. I mean the man is a bona fide American Hero, for Jim's sake.
But then he picked Governor Church Lady, and it was over quickly.
I don't care what the people of Alaska do. It's their state. But come on! Sarah Palin as President of the United States??
There is no fucking way.
If McCain couldn't put even a single blue state in play, what hope does Palin have? She's like 10x further to the Right than McCain is.
The fact that you think you DO get the right to condemn someone's family when someone runs for office speaks far more about you than it does about her. By far.
When part of her political ideology involves abstinence and her oldest daughter is knocked up, it's bound to be mentioned once or twice.
You're wrong. I get the right to comment on her bad judgment. I haven't condemned her family. Get your facts straight before spouting off.
the problem is palin set bristol up for scrunity by some of her positions.
palin backed abstinence-only education when she ran for govenor.
so when palin's unwed daughter showed up pregant it became an issue.
for that matter bristol herself gave the ok for the interview where she
admitted..
palin's husband became an issue because of his possible involvement with the alaska first movement.
and to the extent that tod had involved himself in his wives political decisions.
Sometimes it is impossible to leave the family "out of it" when so much of what they do is involved in the politics. I still try to avoid bringing in unrelated people to arguments about politicians though and if I do, it's only in situations where it's impossible to leave them out.
Even if some of those who cry foul about including Palin's family will take personal swipes at Obama's.
Not saying anyone here has, but it definitely goes on that one side says family is off limits, then turns around and targets the opposition's family as if they were fair game. It's quite common in the news, particularly biased news reporting.
Even if some of those who cry foul about including Palin's family will take personal swipes at Obama's.
Not saying anyone here has, but it definitely goes on that one side says family is off limits, then turns around and targets the opposition's family as if they were fair game. It's quite common in the news, particularly biased news reporting.
It's true. Someone I know on Facebook was all about how it wasn't fair for Palin, and how her family was targeted and Obama's was ignored, and I was like 'They were taking shots at Michelle Obama the whole time, even Palin took shots at her. And if he had an adult pregnant kid that he put in front of the camera to promote his positions all the time I'm sure that kid would've come up just as much.'
I don't think it's great either way, I'd rather everyone debated real issues instead of all the junk we get, but hey....
I want to feel sorry for her for the way the pundits and comedians and parts of the media just went after her with a vengeance, and continued to do so after the election. But I just can't. She put herself in the limelight when she obviously wasn't ready and seemed to love the attention, no matter how positive or negative it got. She didn't really seem to understand that Tina Fey was mocking her in a way that was meant to be insulting. And not after how she behaved on the campaign trail. Namely when she used her election rallies to homage old divisions and hatreds best left forgotten. Not after Obama defended her children's right to privacy, and then to show her gratitude she accused him of being a terrorist every night for months on end. By the end, her own running mate was publicly disowning her. Kudos to Johnny Mac for that.
Was The Media unfair? Kind of. They probably wouldn't have been as critical of her if she was a man. Hillary got it pretty good as well. Bush and Quayle got hit for their flubs, but I don't think it was quite as intense as it was with her. Then again, they could answer basic policy questions at least and had a record to run on. I think she figured that she could just charm the pants of off America with her down home folksiness and anti-Washington rhetoric like Bush did. Except that people were sick of anything resembling Bush and her running mate was as Washington establishment as you can get. Basically The Media saw George Bush in a skirt and they kind of freaked out. And picking fights with David Letterman was just pathetic.
You reap what you sow, honey. So I don't feel sorry for you. If you don't like the criticism then you shouldn't have put yourself and your familiy in the limelight. If this is an attempt to solidify a Presidental run, then it's a pretty poor strategy IMO. I feel sorry for the next woman to run for high office, because all Palin has done is just confrimed people's misguided fears that the women folk don't have what it takes to hold the position.
Was The Media unfair? Kind of. They probably wouldn't have been as critical of her if she was a man. Hillary got it pretty good as well. Bush and Quayle got hit for their flubs, but I don't think it was quite as intense as it was with her. Then again, they could answer basic policy questions at least and had a record to run on. I think she figured that she could just charm the pants of off America with her down home folksiness and anti-Washington rhetoric like Bush did. Except that people were sick of anything resembling Bush and her running mate was as Washington establishment as you can get. Basically The Media saw George Bush in a skirt and they kind of freaked out. And picking fights with David Letterman was just pathetic.
You reap what you sow, honey. So I don't feel sorry for you. If you don't like the criticism then you shouldn't have put yourself and your familiy in the limelight. If this is an attempt to solidify a Presidental run, then it's a pretty poor strategy IMO. I feel sorry for the next woman to run for high office, because all Palin has done is just confrimed people's misguided fears that the women folk don't have what it takes to hold the position.
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