P/C: our thread is eternal

[mon capitaine]

So: on the topic Picard as The Host.

I can’t help thinking it would have killed any future P/C. I mean it would have just been so awkward after she and Odan had had the HOT SHH. With Riker it didn’t matter because there was never going to be anything further between them, but with Picard, yikes.

Besides, it was much more fun to watch Picard suffer as Beverly banged another of his friends.

 

[mackillian]

WillsBabe, it's sort-of been found (the story). It's "The Perfect Host" by D.J. Nicholson as said by one of the folks on a mailing list. Of course, it was in a fanzine (Beyond Farpoint 5) and apparently not online.

 

[WillsBabe]

^ Well done in finding it, mackillian. I don't have that zine, so I suppose I must have read it in a friend's copy. I can't say whether the zine as a whole is worth tracking down second hand (or new if it's still available), although if you're determined to read the story, I suppose it might be. I do recall that those zines have very nice full colour glossy covers.

 

[mackillian]

Oh, I didn't find it myself. I just asked on GG and lo and behold, someone had the answer.

Now just have to find someone with the 'zine...

 

[WillsBabe]

^ Do you want to buy it or just read it?

 

[mackillian]

Just read it. /end nike reading public service announcement

 

[WillsBabe]

Okay, because I thought I'd found a site where it is for sale.

 

[Scatta]

Rosyrock That makes sense. I think she wanted him to be straight and not completely dead to the opposite sex, but didn't want him to be someone else's! Besides, if someone made him smile, without taking him away forever, it was a good thing.

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Bev-as-host = "Sub Rosa"

Come to think of it, the doc really needs a man who's not an energy cloud and doesn't need a living host.

(John Doe= energy cloud in the end, Odan = needs a living host, Ronin = energy cloud that needs a living host)

 

[CrazyMaryT]

mackillian said:
WillsBabe, it's sort-of been found (the story). It's "The Perfect Host" by D.J. Nicholson as said by one of the folks on a mailing list. Of course, it was in a fanzine (Beyond Farpoint 5) and apparently not online.

I was going to say you could PM me if you wanted it but I only have Beyond Farpoint 3 and 4. I found a bunch of zines from the 90's and I hadn't realised how much P/C I had. I didn't realised I shipped them that hard.

 

[rosyrock]

Scatta said:

Bev-as-host = "Sub Rosa"

Come to think of it, the doc really needs a man who's not an energy cloud and doesn't need a living host.

(John Doe= energy cloud in the end, Odan = needs a living host, Ronin = energy cloud that needs a living host)

Yes, it just goes to prove that noncorporeal sex is not doing it for her long term

I just found the whole Riker hosting Odan and sleeping with her thing real icky..

 

[Dancing Doctor]

^Her and Riker were more like family than...

 

[mackillian]

It was like watching someone sleep with their brother. *scrapes eyes out*

 

[rosyrock]

^ And Deanna encouraged it, pushed her into it even!!!

What a good best friend/counsellor she is! "sleep with my ex.. he's quite good, but with a symbiont.. dynamite!"

*also scrapes eyes out*

 

[Dancing Doctor]

*gets a mop, broom, dustpan, and cleaning liquid to get rid of the bloody mess*

 

[Scatta]

I saw "Arsenal of Freedom" (not to be confused with the P/C smut version, "Freedom to Get Some Arsenal") again today. I, once again, only saw half of it. I'm not sure if I've actually seen the entire thing since I started watching TNG again or not.

I watched their facial expressions in the cave, and compared them to the ones from "The High Ground" and finally "Attached." I think there's a definite evolution there, even just looking at that. He seemed warmer toward her in "The High Ground," even though she was in trouble there, and injured and needing his care in "Arsenal of Freedom." Then, of course, they just seem so comfortable in each other's company that the cave with all of those fireballs and heights might as well be a vacation spot by "Attached." What do you think?

I'd love to include the scenes with Picard, Crusher, and Worf in "Chain of Command" with my thoughts, since that's a cave too, or compare P/C to P/V in the caves, but I just can't remember those eps well enough.

If you're wondering why I'm looking at them in caves, it's because, with the exception of "Chain of Command" when Worf was there, it's a time when they're truely alone and separated from the ship, free to be themselves. I think that's why TNG used caves so much. They did that with P/C and P/V, and even with Picard and Wesley bonding before he went off to the academy.

P.S. I loved how Beverly was herself for a moment, even when disoriented by bloodloss. Picard and Data are trying to analyze the situation and she says, somewhat impatiently, "Why don't you just turn it off?"

 

[WillsBabe]

Admiral Valeris said:
*gets a mop, broom, dustpan, and cleaning liquid to get rid of the bloody mess*

Oh, no, I really liked it! *Creeps out while no one's looking*

I wish that they had addressed the four-sided triangle that the incident must have left in the protaganists' lives, but, alas, they never did.

Scatta that's an interesting observation about the caves. I just thought they'd just loads of caves because they are cheap sets, but I like your take on it much better.

 

[mon capitaine]

Ah caves. If there's one thing TNG taught us it was: Caves Are Bad. Or perhaps more specifically Caves With Picard Are Bad. People get threatened, injured or just plain die in those polystyrene rock formations. Think Bev, think Dirgo, think Anij. Poor Vash was never the same again. I think the message is clear.

 

[rosyrock]

I have always thought that "Arsenal of freedom" would have been so much better if it had happened along later in their relationship.
He was very hands off "it's only a flesh wound" with her wasn't he? Maybe it was sheer fear causing him to be a bit terse, He'd already bought one Crusher back dead.. I don't reckon he could have faced Wesley if she had died and he had to do it again, it just wasn't an option.
I always found it interesting that he knew so very little about her back then. He finds out that she survived Arvada III and that her Nana was a healer there. Makes you wonder if he isolated himself from finding out more about her earlier on for a very good reason, what you don't know can't hurt you or attract you.. as the case may be..

 

[Whoa Nellie]

mon capitaine said:
Poor Vash was never the same again.

Finding jamaharon will change a girl.

Warmest Wishes,
Whoa Nellie

 

[Dancing Doctor]

Scatta: "Freedom To Get Some Arsenal"?!

I never really thought about the caves.

Narrator: And as the Black Beast lurched forward, escape for Arthur and his knights seemed hopeless, when suddenly, the animator suffered a fatal heart attack!
[cut to the animator shown cringing]
Animator: Ughck!
[falls backwards in his chair]
Narrator: [back to the cartoon] The cartoon peril was no more.
[Beast of Aaaaauuuugggggghhh disappears]
Narrator: The quest for the Holy Grail could continue.

rosyrock: What are you going to do, bleed on me?

Whoa Nellie: ...hor'gahn.