Oumuamua - The Next Great Project

[rahullak]

2: It's not a matter of having something waiting to go. The object would have to be extremely close and therefore astronomically lucky, to the probe, and even then all that could be done is a flyby (or impact) as again, right now anyway, there's nothing that can match that kind of velocity, though there ideas from them. Oumuamua is flying along at the speed of what we might produce ourselves if we were to go all in on an unmanned star probe , and we don't yet have our own unmanned star probe to catch it.

Karen Meech seemed to have the same idea of a drone waiting at L5 or someplace. Maybe a swarm is needed at multiple wait points.

Anyway, as i said earlier the feasibility will have to be calculated and not dismissed out of hand. It's just an idea. Better to have something than nothing.

 

[XCV330]

Anyway, as i said earlier the feasibility will have to be calculated and not dismissed out of hand. It's just an idea. Better to have something than nothing.

You're right. It's a pity that we couldn't have learned more about this thing, whatever it is.

 

[publiusr]

I wonder if the purported planet 9 could be in its path--something. It won't be too very much longer before it is in the solar foci....

 

[Dukhat]

Except there is no planet 9, other than Mondas, that is.

 

[Dryson]

Karen Meech seemed to have the same idea of a drone waiting at L5 or someplace. Maybe a swarm is needed at multiple wait points.

Anyway, as i said earlier the feasibility will have to be calculated and not dismissed out of hand. It's just an idea. Better to have something than nothing.

It could be possible that Oumuamua has trailer objects that traveled along with it and were picked up by the gravity of Planet 9 or they could perhaps still be out on a slow trajectory towards Earth and could even impact Earth.

 

[Mysterion]

It looks like there may be a second interstellar object heading our general direction:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/sci...lying-toward-earth/vi-AAHcvD4?ocid=spartandhp

 

[StarCruiser]

So long as it doesn't "fart" in our general direction...I'm okay with it!

 

[publiusr]

How to get there
https://www.centauri-dreams.org/2019/09/16/could-we-send-a-probe-to-c-2019-q4-borisov/

 

[Dryson]

If Proxima Centauri system has an asteroid belt around on the planets, could Oumumua have come from Proxima Centauri?

 

[Santaman]

No, Oumumua came out of the direction of Vega, not Proxima Centauri.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ʻOumuamua#Indications_of_origin

 

[StarCruiser]

Oh, and no, the signals from Proxima Centauri are not from aliens...

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Whenever you hear that something out there might be a sign of intelligent life, consider first that if a scientist says "Yes, one hypothetical possible cause of this thing is intelligent life" gets reported by science journalism as "Scientist says this thing might be caused by intelligent life".

 

[Silvercrest]

Particularly since jumping to that sort of conclusion is not very intelligent in the first place. How are we gonna recognize intelligence elsewhere if we don't display any of our own?

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

No, Oumumua came out of the direction of Vega, not Proxima Centauri.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ʻOumuamua#Indications_of_origin

The solar system is headed in that general direction so it's more likely that extrasolar objects will be detected coming from there.

 

[publiusr]

New book on the subject
https://www.thespacereview.com/article/4101/1
https://nypost.com/2021/01/02/a-harvard-professor-says-an-alien-visited-in-2017/
https://arxiv.org/abs/2011.14900

Interview
https://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2021-01-17-show/

How to chase it down---the interstellar precursor:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/...ches-for-the-stars-one-generation-at-a-time1/
https://science.nasa.gov/science-re...HPS_Interstellar_Probe_1_July_2015-TAGGED.pdf

For the next visit
https://www.centauri-dreams.org/2021/01/05/a-statite-slingshot-for-catching-interstellar-objects/

 

[XCV330]

I have been thinking more about this lately. I know what I wrote in the past but my opinions have changed a little.

I don't really understand the vehement treatment Loeb received and still does over his hypothesis. Skepticism in a lot of scientific fields has reached that unhealthy level it sometimes obtains, where it is easy to say "no" and protect your own grants from conservative organizations than even be a little moderate.

It's not unreasonable to suspect there are other spacefaring species in the galaxy. and if there are, even if there's just been a handful that made it to the ability to settle on multiple worlds or at least off-world, then they have most likely avoided extinction from one global event. And they're probably a lot older than us, it stands to reason. If they're out there, they have technology we can barely comprehend.

So let's assume that somehow Oumuamua WAS made out of some kind of solid monatomic hydrogen as has been proposed by those suggesting it is a naturally occurring, albeit somehow extremely high velocity, object that somehow did not turn to plasma and disperse during whatever it was that occurred to make it accelerate so quickly, chunk of solid hydrogen somewhere just above absolute zero Kelvin. It makes no sense. But if it were a constructed object, or relic of a constructed object, it makes more sense.

At the very least, there's as much chance it was alien in origin as much as it was naturally occurring. I think it might have been a greeting. It was noticeable enough to be observed, but with no possible way we could have intercepted it. At the risk of sounding like kook, i think it was there on purpose and I think we were supposed to see it.

 

[BillJ]

At the very least, there's as much chance it was alien in origin as much as it was naturally occurring. I think it might have been a greeting. It was noticeable enough to be observed, but with no possible way we could have intercepted it. At the risk of sounding like kook, i think it was there on purpose and I think we were supposed to see it.

Unless another one comes by and we are able to better analyze it, we'll never truly now what it was. I'm not seeing an issue with an open debate about what Oumuamua was.

 

[XCV330]

Unless another one comes by and we are able to better analyze it, we'll never truly now what it was. I'm not seeing an issue with an open debate about what Oumuamua was.

I agree. There should be debate on it.

 

[Santaman]

Personally I think it is just an old iron/nickel asteroid, these are sturdy enough to not break into pieces while tumbling like Oumumua does.
Could it have been something alien made, I think a iron/nickel asteroid would be a great place to start building a colony or spaceship even but if it is/was then it probably is dead.

 

[StarCruiser]

Probable just a shard of a large asteroid broken up at some point. It doesn't even have to be broken up by a massive explosion - just too close to something that can break it up. The original asteroid could have been bashed in multiple collisions before the final breakup...

Basically, large somewhat misshaped, rubble...