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Osama Bin Laden is Dead

8 years ago today Bush gave his Mission Accomplished speech stating that this was the end of major combat operations in Iraq.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Mission_Accomplished_Speech

Yeah, but no one in the leadership is under any illusion that this ends combat operations against al Qaeda and other terror groups, so I don't really see the connection. The accomplishment is that some justice and closure for those affected by 9/11 has occurred.
 
Antagonist.* ;)

Ah. Sorry, me sucketh in English. I meant to say "main character" :o

Either way, I feel happy for Americans who finally got their revenge. I find it hard to feel happy over someone's death, though. ;)

When you arrest a mass murderer, it's not revenge. When that mass murderer refuses to cooperate and, in fact, violently resist arrest, actions taken to subdue that mass murderer do not stem from revenge. The mass murderer Osama bin Laden was killed while attempting to violently resist capture. It was not revenge.
 
Either way, I feel happy for Americans who finally got their revenge. I find it hard to feel happy over someone's death, though. ;)

Normally I'd agree, but Bin Laden? I think the sort of celebration that's apparently happening in the US about it is a little weird, for example I read that the crowd at Ground Zero chanted "we are the champions". :lol:
But hey, whatever works for them. My opinion is more like "well done; finally" and not "hurray". In the big picture it probably doesn't make much difference, but Bin Laden did kill a lot of people and caused a lot of general misery so it's good that he got what he had coming.
 
Apparently a Pakistani computer programmer unknowingly live tweeted the US raid as it was happening. Tweeting about an unusual helicopter hovering over the city, and shortly later about hearing an explosion that ma have been the helicopter crashing.

http://twitter.com/#!/ReallyVirtual


Since I began following this guy, he's shot up around 12,000 followers. It's interesting to read his account.
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Here's a photo of Abbottabad he shared.
 
Well, all I can say is that me and Barry just got the best 50th birthday present ever. This is great news to wake up to.
 
Never posted on these forums before, but found this amusing- type "bbs osama bin laden" in google, and this forum is the second result. And this thread has been very amusing to read :)
 
Never posted on these forums before, but found this amusing- type "bbs osama bin laden" in google, and this forum is the second result. And this thread has been very amusing to read :)

I'm glad you like it so far, and because of that, I have taken the liberty of reaching around in your pants pockets for spare change. I found a button, a Four of Clubs playing card with dried peanut butter on it (I hope that's dried peanut butter), and a keyring with a photo of Howie Mandel saying "You Are The Weakest Link. Goodbye!" on the front of it.

Welcome to the board! Oh, and next time you should come back with money.
 
well done SEAL team. now we just need to deal with al-Qaeda in Yemen. they're the big threat, what with the cargo-plane bomb plots.

invading Afghanistan wasn't just about taking out Bin Laden, it was also about stopping the Taliban from allowing al-Qaeda safe-haven in the country.
 
Here's a pretty interesting in-depth article focusing on all the details that led up to the raid:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/...ead-inside-raid-that-killed-him_n_856158.html

By mid-February, intelligence from multiple sources was clear enough that Obama wanted to "pursue an aggressive course of action," a senior administration official said. Over the next two and a half months, Obama led five meetings of the National Security Council focused solely on whether bin Laden was in that compound and, if so, how to get him, the official said.

Normally, the U.S. shares its counterterrorism intelligence widely with trusted allies in Britain, Canada, Australia and elsewhere. And the U.S. normally does not carry out ground operations inside Pakistan without collaboration with Pakistani intelligence. But this mission was too important and too secretive.

On April 29, Obama approved an operation to kill bin Laden. It was a mission that required surgical accuracy, even more precision than could be delivered by the government's sophisticated Predator drones. To execute it, Obama tapped a small contingent of the Navy's elite SEAL Team Six and put them under the command of CIA Director Leon Panetta, whose analysts monitored the compound from afar.Panetta was directly in charge of the team, a U.S. official said, and his conference room was transformed into a command center.

Huh, according to that, apparently somewhere in the intelligence chain was a tip from a detainee. Maybe from Guantanamo but it's not specific. Either way, that sort of complicates the debate on that can of worms.
 
Hmmm. All kinds of democracy shit going on in the Middle East, potentially threatening even Saudi Arabia. Suddenly US are able to take out Bin Laden. Conspiracy theorist, moi?
 
Ceefax says Obama has announced that Bin Laden has finally been deep-sixed. But I've heard that before - do we know whether he's actually reached room temperature this time or not?

"Buried at sea"? Come off it... That's so convenient.So suspicious - let's see the proof.

Anyway... Street parties in NYC and DC make a nice change from rallies on the other side after terrorist attacks. Amused by the journos on TV asking "will this mean the end of Al Qaeda?" Of course not - AQ isn't a solid organization like in a Bond movie, it's a loose association of like-minded fanatics, like, well fandom. Except that instead of conventions they organize terrorist attacks and murders.

Still, we'll raise a bacon buttie to the good news.
 
Hmmm. All kinds of democracy shit going on in the Middle East, potentially threatening even Saudi Arabia. Suddenly US are able to take out Bin Laden. Conspiracy theorist, moi?


I don't know, what "conspiracy theory" exactly are you suggesting?
 
Hmmm. All kinds of democracy shit going on in the Middle East, potentially threatening even Saudi Arabia. Suddenly US are able to take out Bin Laden. Conspiracy theorist, moi?


I don't know, what "conspiracy theory" exactly are you suggesting?

More importantly, is it a good one, or is it one of those Tom Clancy wankfests?
 
Hmmm. All kinds of democracy shit going on in the Middle East, potentially threatening even Saudi Arabia. Suddenly US are able to take out Bin Laden. Conspiracy theorist, moi?

Throwing out a bunch of unrelated events across a thousands of miles wide region with vastly different circumstances and going "hmmm" is not a conspiracy theory. C'mon, you have to give us something better than that. :p

Ceefax says Obama has announced that Bin Laden has finally been deep-sixed. But I've heard that before - do we know whether he's actually reached room temperature this time or not?

"Buried at sea"? Come off it... That's so convenient.So suspicious - let's see the proof.

It's a compromise between wanting to respect Muslim burial practices which require the body to be buried as soon as possible and a desire to have him buried at sea in an unknown spot so the site would not become a shrine to bin Laden (as Saddam Hussein's burial site in Ouja, Iraq has become for some of his supporters).

They will no doubt have tons of video, photographic, and physical evidence to prove his death.

However, even if they paraded his body around DC and New York it wouldn't make any difference to those who want to believe he's still alive for whatever reason.
 
They better make sure to burn down the hideout he resided in. Otherwise they will gather around the bloodstain and splattered brain on the wall.
 
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