Opposing Magnets Query

[All Seeing Eye]

The magnets aren't big enough and besides that those ones are the wrong shape.

Too little for what? What will be achieved by using big-ass magnets that would not with smaller ones?

Because I believe that in order to achieve electrical current the magnets need to be a certain size.

 

[deck5]

The magnets aren't big enough and besides that those ones are the wrong shape.

Too little for what? What will be achieved by using big-ass magnets that would not with smaller ones?

Because I believe that in order to achieve electrical current the magnets need to be a certain size.

You are woefully ignorant of some key fundamentals. I recommend reading up on it.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

^ Has someone done this test before?

 

[Robert Maxwell]

Force is force and current is current, there is not some magical break-even point where a big enough magnet will suddenly do something a smaller one can't.

 

[Alpha_Geek]

RTFM here

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Force is force and current is current, there is not some magical break-even point where a big enough magnet will suddenly do something a smaller one can't.

The bigger the magnet the bigger the repulsive force, thus a chance that some fluctuating may occur (a very very tiny amount) but enough to create a current.
You're all telling me there's no fluctuating but I believe that if the magnets are large enough and strong enough there may indeed be slight fluctuations that might create current.

If someone is willing to fork out the cash to try this out?

 

[Alpha_Geek]

...thus a chance that some fluctuating may occur (a very very tiny amount) but enough to create a current.
You're all telling me there's no fluctuating but I believe that if the magnets are large enough and strong enough there may indeed be slight fluctuations that might create current.

...and this supposition that flies contrary to lots of already published research is based on what experiments and data?

You've already been told how you can research this new phenomenon you've dreamed up. All you have to do now is do it and prove the world wrong for well under 50 bucks.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

I've just said, if any fluctuating occurs it's going to be IMO very tiny and will require huge magnets. I don't have that kind of money. What if I buy two magnets and try and drill a hole for the coiled wire to go through and the magnets shatter? I don't have money to burn!!

 

[Silvercrest]

Drill carefully.

 

[iguana_tonante]

Because I believe that in order to achieve electrical current the magnets need to be a certain size.

The bigger the magnet the bigger the repulsive force, thus a chance that some fluctuating may occur (a very very tiny amount) but enough to create a current.

You're all telling me there's no fluctuating but I believe that if the magnets are large enough and strong enough there may indeed be slight fluctuations that might create current.

I've just said, if any fluctuating occurs it's going to be IMO very tiny and will require huge magnets.

Your ideas about electromagnetism are deeply flawed. Sorry, but you should really get a book on physics and read it, before getting to defy the theory of electromagnetism and challenge us to use our money to prove you wrong...

 

[All Seeing Eye]

before getting to defy the theory of electromagnetism and challenge us to use our money to prove you wrong...

Using someone elses money is the best method of doing things though.

 

[Verteron]

before getting to defy the theory of electromagnetism and challenge us to use our money to prove you wrong...

Using someone elses money is the best method of doing things though.

If you genuinely 'believe' in this concept and think you can make electricity for free (which seems to be where this is going, once again, utterly defying the natural laws), isn't your initial outlay of $50 peanuts compared to the trillions you'll make once you patent this magical invention and use it to save our planet from ecological meltdown?

Guess all those billions of dollars they're putting in to fusion will be a big joke in a few years, all those really clever scientists will be so sore they never thought of putting two big fucking magnets together!

 

[All Seeing Eye]

If you genuinely 'believe' in this concept and think you can make electricity for free (which seems to be where this is going, once again, utterly defying the natural laws), isn't your initial outlay of $50 peanuts compared to the trillions you'll make once you patent this magical invention and use it to save our planet from ecological meltdown?

But it won't be $50 for two reasons, 1) I don't use dollars and 2) I said large magnets are required, magnets in the £1000's range. It's just a theory I have, it's not concrete therefore i'm not risking my own money.

Also can you calm down please.

 

[Arrqh]

I said large magnets are required, magnets in the £1000's range.

Luckily, books on physics are much cheaper then that!

 

[Alpha_Geek]

Sheesh... OK, so under 40. UK Pounds or Euros, take your pick, they're both under 40.

Your path is clear Taccy. Quit whining about size. Magnetic fields scale up and down just fine.

Don't dream, DO!

 

[All Seeing Eye]

OK, I'LL DO IT!

Fame and fortune here I come.

 

[Jadzia]

OK, I'LL DO IT!

Fame and fortune here I come.

If you do buy some magnets, make sure they're polarised how you want them.
Do you want north-south along its length, between the cylinder ends, or do you want north-south radially, between the inside and outside surfaces?

 

[All Seeing Eye]

I want a couple of these methinks.

 

[iguana_tonante]

Using someone elses money is the best method of doing things though.

This we can agree on.

Your path is clear Taccy. Quit whining about size. Magnetic fields scale up and down just fine.

Yeah, Tacky. It's not the size of your magnet, but the way you use it!

 

[Alpha_Geek]

Find out what material they are. Generally, the higher the Nxx number the stronger the magnetic field. See this for more specific information.

Since budgetary concerns are important, you might consider 4 of these and use them in pairs. That'd put each side at 40 x 40 x15mm and bring your cost to around 15 Euros for the lot.

Besides, you get double the number of refrigerator magnets this way when you don't get the results you expect. Just watch your fingers, these magnets BITE!.