Opinions on The Orville

[Mr Awe]

I think if you took the best elements of The Orville and Discover, and combined them into one show, we'd have the best Trek show yet.

Sure, but you can easily do that just by showing him flipping through a bunch of different open programs and documents on one PADD.

I disagree with the first point about combining the shows. They're two very different beasts. Light comedy and drama. You can combine those but it won't necessarily produce the best ever. I'm glad that we have two different shows that scratch two different itches. Plus some prefer one type over the other and having two different shows just means more people are happy. That's cool.

If you combine them, you'd have just one show with elements that nearly everyone would have something to complain about!

As for the PADDs, yeah, it's a bit exaggerated. Ok, a lot exaggerated. I forget when that scene was filmed, but people are more used to having many apps open on their portable devices now than back then. I think they were just going for the visual impact--and that was easier to convey back then with a stack of PADDs rather than showing Picard flipping through numerous apps on a small screen. Particularly because it wasn't common back then.

But, I do agree it looks silly now. However, I don't fault reasoning for the times.

 

[Mr Awe]

It looks foolish now.

Lots of things look foolish. Like LaMarr humping a statue. Oh wait, that was made last year.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

As for the PADDs, yeah, it's a bit exaggerated. Ok, a lot exaggerated. I forget when that scene was filmed, but people are more used to having many apps open on their portable devices now than back then. I think they were just going for the visual impact--and that was easier to convey back then with a stack of PADDs rather than showing Picard flipping through numerous apps on a small screen. Particularly because it wasn't common back then.

It's easy to forget that multitasking wasn't really a thing until the 90s. It existed but until Win 95 it wasn't something most people had exposure to in a meaningful way. I remember downloading something and my friend suggested doing something else while waiting and I was like "You can do that?".

I remember using the Opera web browser because it was the first (easy, free browser, don't wiki me dammit ) to allow tabbed web browsing years before the big boys caught on. Imagine only being able to look at one web page at a time, the horror! How did we survive the dark years?

 

[Mr Awe]

It's easy to forget that multitasking wasn't really a thing until the 90s. It existed but until Win 95 it wasn't something most people had exposure to in a meaningful way. I remember downloading something and my friend suggested doing something else while waiting and I was like "You can do that?".

I remember using the Opera web browser because it was the first (easy, free browser, don't wiki me dammit ) to allow tabbed web browsing years before the big boys caught on. Imagine only being able to look at one web page at a time, the horror! How did we survive the dark years?

Yes, and that's especially true for portable devices like iPads--particularly multitasking between different apps. The idea just wouldn't have transferred as well onscreen back then.

I've used a lot of the old browsers. Netscape, Opera, Cello, etc. Agreed about the horror of one web page at a time!

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

Yes, and that's especially true for portable devices like iPads--particularly multitasking between different apps. The idea just wouldn't have transferred as well onscreen back then.

I've used a lot of the old browsers. Netscape, Opera, Cello, etc. Agreed about the horror of one web page at a time!

Except when that webpage conjured up a million pop-ups trying to sell penis enlargements...

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Opera was one of the first with a built-in pop-up blocker as well...

 

[The Wormhole]

If it is, then it means that spirit of Trek has stagnated and not moved forward in decades.

Well, it kinda has.

 

[Mudd]

Except when that webpage conjured up a million pop-ups trying to sell penis enlargements...

I always wondered how they knew.

 

[BillJ]

Well, it kinda has.

I'd rather have the stagnated version in The Orville, than have none at all as we see in Discovery. Name and date dropping do not equal any kind of vision nor direction.

 

[Mr Awe]

Well, it kinda has.

That's a personal opinion. Mine is different. Discovery has taken it to the next level. YMMV, of course.

I do like The Orville as well, but it hasn't moved things forward.

 

[Mudd]

Well, it kinda has.

STD doesn't represent any kind of "moving forward." It's simply the Franchise's deterioration into turn-off-your-brain, lowest-common-denominator television.

 

[Mr Awe]

STD doesn't represent any kind of "moving forward." It's simply the Franchise's deterioration into turn-off-your-brain, lowest-common-denominator television.

In your humble opinion.

 

[F. King Daniel]

STD doesn't represent any kind of "moving forward." It's simply the Franchise's deterioration into turn-off-your-brain, lowest-common-denominator television.

Hi Leslie, please let Dennis have his account back as soon as possible. Thanks.

 

[BillJ]

Hi Leslie, please let Dennis have his account back as soon as possible. Thanks.

As much as I hate to say it, I'm not sure he's wrong. I've found the writing rarely rises above the garbage we get from the various Transformers films.

 

[1001001]

Seriously, what show were you guys watching?



The Orville is a good show.

Discovery is orders of magnitude better, in every department (well, except humor).

 

[BillJ]

Discovery is orders of magnitude better, in every department (well, except humor).

It just doesn't work for me. The writing seems to primarily consist of "Hey! Remember this minutiae? So do we!!!"

 

[1001001]

It just doesn't work for me. The writing seems to primarily consist of "Hey! Remember this minutiae? So do we!!!"

I understand.

I don't get upset at what other people think of a TV show.

If it doesn't work for you, then that's fine.

It's all good.

 

[Mr Awe]

I understand.

I don't get upset at what other people think of a TV show.

If it doesn't work for you, then that's fine.

It's all good.

I think that's the best approach to take. I'm glad both are on the air. They're different. If you don't like one, you might like the other. And, if you don't happen to like one, no big deal. Everyone has their own personal opinions about what's good or not.

I'm lucky that I like both. As you said, The Orville is good, but Discovery is magnitudes better!

 

[eschaton]

I think that's the best approach to take. I'm glad both are on the air. They're different. If you don't like one, you might like the other. And, if you don't happen to like one, no big deal. Everyone has their own personal opinions about what's good or not.

I'm lucky that I like both. As you said, The Orville is good, but Discovery is magnitudes better!

Discovery is a show that set its sights very high and missed.

The Orville is a show that has very low expectations, and managed to meet them.

 

[Mr Awe]

Discovery is a show that set its sights very high and missed.

The Orville is a show that has very low expectations, and managed to meet them.

I'd agree with your opinion about The Orville. I enjoy it, but it's not pushing boundaries. But, it has achieved what it set out to do.

I disagree about Discovery. It's aimed high and I think it's reached its goals largely. YMMV.