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One Thing Trek Lit Needs to Address...

^ Way rad! Got me thinking about the Simpsons 'Spider Pig' moment.

"What are the Suliban tracks doing on the ceiling?"

"Future Guy, Future Guy
Does whatever a Future Guy does.
Can he swing from a web?
No he can't; 'cause he's not here.
Look out, he is a Future Guy."

"Dad, what about Future Guy?"
"He's not Future Guy anymore. He's Future Plopper."

"Now Plopper, don't wreck that timeline. If you do, Daddy will cease to exist."
 
There was a devout Muslim member of Earth's government in my SCE story Aftermath.
Particularly nice to see him and Captain Gold getting along respectfully.

What might be interesting, though, is to see some new human religion. .... So when human and alien philosophies intermingle, there should be interesting new religions arising from that.
Another thing that Babylon 5 also did - Dr. Franklin was a Foundationist, one of a series of "new" religions that popped up in response to alien contact.

In addition to what I said before about new religions, I think it would be cool to see some interspecies crossover -- an Andorian Jew, a human Prophetist, a Klingon Sikh, a Tellarite Surakist, that sort of thing.
Well, in a way, we already have a human Prophetist - Benjamin Sisko.

And it goes the other way too, with B'Elanna Torres not believing in Klingon religion and Ro Laren not believing in Bajoran religion.
 
JeremyW said:
Oh, and as for Future Guy:


"It seems today, or in the days to be
That all you see is shadows and holograms on TV
But where are your traditional Trekkie bad guys
On which we could always rely!

Oh I wish I could be E.N.T.'s Future Guy
Who always talked to Sillik
Who could always be sadistic
And who would make Sam Beckett
Pout and Cry!
He's ENT's Future Guy!"

Future Guy, Future Guy
Gives us info on days gone by.
Who is he? No one knows.
Maybe he just wants retro clothes.
Look out! Here comes the Future Guy.
Needs more cowbell.
 
There was a devout Muslim member of Earth's government in my SCE story Aftermath.
Particularly nice to see him and Captain Gold getting along respectfully.

Well, contrary to popular belief, Jews and Muslims have historically gotten along relatively well. The Qur'an commands tolerance toward fellow "People of the Book" (i.e. Jews and Christians), and in the Middle Ages, persecuted European Jews often fled to the Muslim world because they'd be safe from persecution there. That's actually part of why the original Zionists wanted to establish their state in Palestine -- not just because Israel was their ancestral homeland, but because they had plenty of historical precedent for the belief that they'd be accepted there. They expected it to be a multifaith state, with Jews, Christians, and Muslims coexisting as they had in the region for centuries.

Unfortunately, the British land barons, such as the Rothschilds, who backed the Zionists dealt with the indigenous Palestinians the same way they dealt with native populations all over the world, driving them from their homes and trampling over their rights. That created bad feelings, and the anti-Semitic movements in Eastern Europe were able to capitalize on that by convincing Palestinians that they should hate the Jews. The fact that Europeans had been meddling aggressively in the Mideast since the Crusades, and even more so since Napoleon's invasion, inclined the Palestinians and their neighbors to fear that Israel was more of the same, the whole Zionist thing just an excuse for more European encroachment. And it all started escalating from there.

So what's generally assumed to be an ancient, traditional conflict between Jews and Muslims is actually only a century old and is really the result of ideas and policies imported from Europe. So I don't think it's unreasonable to believe that it will eventually pass. It's really more a side effect of the idea of ethnic nationalism than anything intrinsic to the faiths themselves. And clearly ethnic nationalism is long-dead in the Earth of the Federation.


And it goes the other way too, with B'Elanna Torres not believing in Klingon religion and Ro Laren not believing in Bajoran religion.

Yeah, but there are plenty of humans in Trek who don't believe in any Earth religions. B'Elanna and Ro don't believe in anyone else's religion either. And B'Elanna actually does become pretty much a believer later on, certainly in "Barge of the Dead," where she's willing to risk her life on the assumption that Klingon mythology is real.
 
Hey, you should feel honored. Your idea inspired us to create cute pictures and even to herald it through song. We could've just done what we normally do, and heap scorn and derision upon it, possibly even while breaking your spirit to the point that you run crying to the Misc. forum in search of comfort and support.

You're welcome.



;)
 
I think the Titan should run into the entity whom the Scientologists claimed colonized Earth all those years ago. The name escapes me.

--Ted
 
I think the Titan should run into the entity whom the Scientologists claimed colonized Earth all those years ago. The name escapes me.

Ask and ye shall receive:

Riker looked up sharply as the collision alert sounded. "Lavena, evasive maneuvers!"

But the Selkie helmswoman was distracted, lost in a fog of self-congratulation at how good she looked on the cover to Over a Torrent Sea. "Uhh... what was tha--"

Suddenly the ship shook and sparks flew from the consoles. Obviously the cliche dampers had gone offline. "Tuvok, report!" Riker called.

"Sensors show a spatiotemporal anomaly closing off the port bow, Captain. It disgorged a spacecraft resembling an ancient Earth Douglas DC-8 without propellers. Judging from the high levels of thetan radiation detected before the craft disintegrated against our shields, I must conclude this to have been the personal craft of the ancient alien dictator described in the writings of L. Ron Hubbard."

Riker stared. "You mean --"

"Yes, sir. Titan has run into Xenu."
 
Hey, you should feel honored. Your idea inspired us to create cute pictures and even to herald it through song. We could've just done what we normally do, and heap scorn and derision upon it, possibly even while breaking your spirit to the point that you run crying to the Misc. forum in search of comfort and support.

You're welcome.



;)

Yeah, what he said.
 
I'm glad that story established their new home as New Xindus. That's what I would have called it.

I found the Xindi fascinating from their very first appearance.

And I must say, I don't much care for religion in Trek. More than anything, I don't like Picard being made to look like a liar. ;)
 
Hey, you should feel honored. Your idea inspired us to create cute pictures and even to herald it through song. We could've just done what we normally do, and heap scorn and derision upon it, possibly even while breaking your spirit to the point that you run crying to the Misc. forum in search of comfort and support.

You're welcome.



;)
Well, I for one am disappointed that this didn't happen. I mean, that's why I come to these boards - to have my spirit broken and scorn and derision heaped upon me! (Isn't that why we're all here...? :confused:)

Go on, Dayton - scorn me! Pretty please?
 
And it goes the other way too, with B'Elanna Torres not believing in Klingon religion and Ro Laren not believing in Bajoran religion.
Yeah, but there are plenty of humans in Trek who don't believe in any Earth religions. B'Elanna and Ro don't believe in anyone else's religion either. And B'Elanna actually does become pretty much a believer later on, certainly in "Barge of the Dead," where she's willing to risk her life on the assumption that Klingon mythology is real.
My point was only that just because a race is depicted with a largely monolithic religious belief doesn't mean that every single member of that race subscribes to it, as these two examples show.
 
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Originally Posted by Dayton Ward
Hey, you should feel honored. Your idea inspired us to create cute pictures and even to herald it through song. We could've just done what we normally do, and heap scorn and derision upon it, possibly even while breaking your spirit to the point that you run crying to the Misc. forum in search of comfort and support.

You're welcome.



;)


Well, I for one am disappointed that this didn't happen. I mean, that's why I come to these boards - to have my spirit broken and scorn and derision heaped upon me! (Isn't that why we're all here...? :confused:)

Dang...I know what you mean....

The more forces and phenomena I learn about through science, the more I see the intricacy of God's work.

Amen, bro!:techman:


Hey--on the subject of The Mysterious Future Guy...ever since it was revealed that, in J.J.'s new film, Nero and the Old Spock go back in time, there have been speculations...that Nero is Future Guy. Or at least, that there's some sorta connection.

Thoughts, gentlemen?
 
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