one FRICKING shelf

[Allyn Gibson]

Usually, Australian specialist comic stores and SF bookstores order (expensive: MMPBs @ approx. $AU 18 in Galaxy and $21 @ Minotaur) air-freighted ST books from Diamond, then top up supplies three months later when the Simon & Schuster Australia brings over a (cheaper, MMPB @ $15) sea-freighted pallet of stock for local distribution.

Ian, your comic shops won't be getting Star Trek books from Diamond anymore. The distributor wasn't getting orders sufficient enough to justify carrying them any longer.

I think Treason might be the last Trek book Diamond has actually distributed. If they didn't, then it's definitely A Singular Destiny. Everything after that MMPB was cancelled. Treason, because of the higher price point, might have been spared the axe; it would have needed fewer orders.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Ian, your comic shops won't be getting Star Trek books from Diamond anymore. The distributor wasn't getting orders sufficient enough to justify carrying them any longer.

Ah. Well the excitement of the new movie might just be doing us an amazing service, because Simon & Schuster Australia always put the ST books on the slow boat. With "Full Circle" and "Treason" already on the general bookshop shelves - in the same month as their US release, and with sea-freighted prices - it would seem that we have an excellent situation.

Aussies - get out there and support our right to have simultaneous releases!

I'm wondering what might happen with Galaxy. Being a specialist SF store, they already had the new "Vanguard" in stock, air-freighted price, last Monday, so it would seem they are ordering direct (from S&S USA?), then still topping up that batch with S&S Aust. imports at the lower price point.

Galaxy didn't seem to order in any day-of-US-release "Full Circle" (it wasn't on my pre-order list, so they might have missed noticing its availability in the catalogue) at air-freight rates, but they did get in the sea-freight priced "Full Circle" - in a hefty quantity - on Thursday. But, as I said, it has essentially arrived three months early!

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Therin my Dymocks has not had any air freighted Trek. The woman there who always calls me when the Trek comes in has told me they will only get it by boat to keep the prices down (I am always behind so this is no pain for me). She just called me a couple days ago to tell me Over a Torrent Sea was in, previously their latest was A Singular Destiny.

She expressed great surprise to me that there is no new rush of books to accompany the movie. She was also amazed that there are no books about the move, "The Art of.." type things.

I'm going in tomorrow most likely so if Full Circle is there I will be thrilled.. but I don't expect it.

 

[Therin of Andor]

I'm going in tomorrow most likely so if Full Circle is there I will be thrilled.. but I don't expect it.

Well, definitely keep a look out because Dymocks in Penrith got it (and "Treason" as well) from somewhere... and they were not air-freighted prices! It's Simon & Schuster Australia who are the official distributors of Pocket's ST books to all general bookshops in Australia, and it seems they've elected to bring this batch in faster than usual.

Minotaur's air-freighted "Full Circle" (two weeks ago) was $20.95, compared to Dymocks' and Galaxy's $14.95 this week.

I'm sure there's an "Art of..." book in the works. I'd be very surprised if nothing gets done about "the making of..."

 

[Trent Roman]

Went on a long walk through the city today and stopped in a couple of Chapters/Indigo bookstores - still zippo in terms of promotion or increased stock. Looks like a number of branches will be sitting this one out.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

 

[Steve Roby]

I'm sure there's an "Art of..." book in the works. I'd be very surprised if nothing gets done about "the making of..."

I envy your optimism, but I think you're more likely to be surprised than I am. There will be coverage in the official Star Trek magazine, but I can't imagine that any books could be released in time without any sign in publishers' catalogues, on Amazon, or anywhere else online.

Does it make sense that this big budget, widely and wildly marketed movie, the first one in a long time to get this level of buzz, could be released without anything from Pocket other than a novelization? No. Is it happening anyway? Sure looks like it.

I'd love to be wrong. But I'm not counting on it.

 

[Therin of Andor]

But I'm not counting on it.

I'm not counting on it either, not in the short term, but numerous ST "making of..." books have come out well after the fact. There's a projected trilogy of films. Perhaps there'll be a "Re-making/Making of the ST Trilogy"?

Hey! There's a "ST II" comic adaptation coming soon from IDW. Who'da thunk it?

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Went on a long walk through the city today and stopped in a couple of Chapters/Indigo bookstores - still zippo in terms of promotion or increased stock. Looks like a number of branches will be sitting this one out.

I was in Borders yesterday. They had displays for Watchmen, i]Wolverine[/i], and Twilight. (And yes, it's weird they have displays for movies that are two and six months old, but they have the stock and they have to move it, so it's not that incomprehensible.)

They had 20 Star Trek books on the shelf. The only books they had multiple copies of were Collision Course (4 copies) and Captain's Glory (2 copies).

 

[Lieut. Arex]

I'm sure there's an "Art of..." book in the works. I'd be very surprised if nothing gets done about "the making of..."

Looking through the system at the B&N where I work the only upcoming title related to STXI I've seen is the novelization. Other than that, just Pocket's slate of novels. There's every indication they're sitting this one out. If not, there are Pocket folks who read this board and can certainly say different.

I've wondered if this is a result of the TV/novel and movie rights being held by a two different companies. While still largely owned by the same organization (National Amusements), one may not feel obliged to support the activities of the other.

 

[JWolf]

You found WoDS9 vol 2 and Warpath in a UBS???

*shock*

I can usually only find the old numbered ones... sometimes some *very* throughly read copies of Avatar, Millennium and Abyss... and that's pretty much it.

*jealous*

I found them in mint condition too... The New England Mobile Book Fair (Newton, MA) is now my new favorite used bookstore.

Nice finds. I'll have to go have a wander around The New England Mobile Book Fair as I am about 6.7-7 miles away from there by car. So would anyone local like to have a get together there?

 

[JWolf]

Star Trek Books no longer exist in my area. It's twenty three miles to the nearest book store. And it just has the books of the current month and what didn't sell the last month or two. I only have feet for transportaion.

So basically, I've just stop reading any Trek.

eBooks mean you can get Trek books without leaving home.

 

[William Leisner]

I was in Borders yesterday. [...] They had 20 Star Trek books on the shelf. The only books they had multiple copies of were Collision Course (4 copies) and Captain's Glory (2 copies).

I picked up Open Secrets at my local Borders last weekend, and was surprised to see that there were 7 copies on hand -- about double the normal initial allocation for the new Trek mass market. I was actually impressed by that. (And very little at this location impresses me.)

 

[Steve Roby]

Went to the downtown Chapters today, probably the biggest bookstore in the Ottawa area (national capital of Canada, metropolitan population around a million). The skiffy section had two shelves of Star Trek books, including some noticeable restocks (Star Trek 101, Captain Kirk's Guide to Women, Star Trek Encyclopedia), but there were easily twice as many Star Wars books. There was a display near the main entrance with a big Star Trek movie poster and a shelf or two of what appeared to be randomly selected fairly recent books (Myriad Universes, etc), right next to a similar display of Wolverine-related stuff. The new NF book, Treason, was still in the storeroom, and they only got three copies in. No sign of Open Secrets yet.

 

[Therin of Andor]

I picked up Open Secrets at my local Borders last weekend, and was surprised to see that there were 7 copies on hand -- about double the normal initial allocation for the new Trek mass market. I was actually impressed by that. (And very little at this location impresses me.)

"Just for shits and giggles", eh?

 

[William Leisner]

I picked up Open Secrets at my local Borders last weekend, and was surprised to see that there were 7 copies on hand -- about double the normal initial allocation for the new Trek mass market. I was actually impressed by that. (And very little at this location impresses me.)

"Just for shits and giggles", eh?

Seven copies of the current novel in a single store is still nowhere near the explosion of product you were predicting, Nostradamus.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Seven copies of the current novel in a single store is still nowhere near the explosion of product you were predicting, Nostradamus.

Every silver lining has a cloud.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

I picked up Open Secrets at my local Borders last weekend...

Last weekend?!? That's what I went in looking for. That's what my Borders didn't have. I settled for the new issue of MOJO. *sigh*

 

[Therin of Andor]

I picked up Open Secrets at my local Borders last weekend...

Last weekend?!? That's what I went in looking for. That's what my Borders didn't have. I settled for the new issue of MOJO. *sigh*

Arrived in Sydney last Monday.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I'm going in tomorrow most likely so if Full Circle is there I will be thrilled.. but I don't expect it.

Well, definitely keep a look out because Dymocks in Penrith got it (and "Treason" as well) from somewhere... and they were not air-freighted prices! It's Simon & Schuster Australia who are the official distributors of Pocket's ST books to all general bookshops in Australia, and it seems they've elected to bring this batch in faster than usual.

YES!!! It was there at Dymocks in Ringwood. Full Circle and Treason, came in with the same shipment as Torrent Sea. I wonder how??

Bought Torrent and Full Circle but I don't read New Frontier so I skipped Treason. Actually I picked it up to try and convince myself (why is it a Trade paperback??) but reading the first sentence of chapter 1 was enough to remind me of why I don't read 'em.

Saw the Trailer all over the shopping center on varying advertising screens (which I don't normally notice, lol)

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Does it make sense that this big budget, widely and wildly marketed movie, the first one in a long time to get this level of buzz, could be released without anything from Pocket other than a novelization? No. Is it happening anyway? Sure looks like it.

That's exactly what the woman in charge of the Sci Fi section of my Dymocks said to me.

Weird huh?